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Old 4th Jun 2020, 08:38
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N Reg in the UK

Happy for substantiated fact based answers or total guesses. Approximately how many N reg aircraft do you think are currently based in the UK?

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Old 5th Jun 2020, 06:53
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If anyone knows a member of LAAS aviation there group has an online list which you used to be able to look at, it is now password restricted to members.
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Old 5th Jun 2020, 11:36
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Originally Posted by N707ZS View Post
If anyone knows a member of LAAS aviation there group has an online list which you used to be able to look at, it is now password restricted to members.
As it should be. Data protection and all that.
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Old 5th Jun 2020, 11:49
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The last version of the LAAS aviation list which was publicly available (in 2016) contains 1007 N-registered aircraft, although this covers UK and Ireland in full and also includes many non-airworthy aircraft. No ownership details were disclosed.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 19:44
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The LAAS on-line list currently records 987 N-reg aircraft, but as horatio_b correctly states, this includes Ireland based aircraft and those in museums etc.

The ownership details including registered addresses of all N-reg aircraft are freely available on the FAA "N-Number" website.
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 14:07
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Originally Posted by roger4 View Post
The LAAS on-line list currently records 987 N-reg aircraft, but as horatio_b correctly states, this includes Ireland based aircraft and those in museums etc.

The ownership details including registered addresses of all N-reg aircraft are freely available on the FAA "N-Number" website.
Good point. N-reg database has 761 registered to UK addresses, the vast majority with Southern Aircraft Consultancy. More than I thought there would be.
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 20:45
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And all on flags of convenience, circumventing proper regulation, and contributing to the problem, not the solution.
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 18:16
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Originally Posted by Monty Niveau View Post
And all on flags of convenience, circumventing proper regulation, and contributing to the problem, not the solution.
why are they circumventing proper regulation ?
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 19:10
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Because international air law was set up to allow international transit, not to enable people to choose the cheapest, lowest common denominator option, and keep out of their regulators’ sight by flagging light aeroplanes out. The FAA are very clear that they don’t have, never will have, and don’t want to have, the resources to monitor N-reg light aircraft overseas.
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Old 12th Jun 2020, 11:26
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Originally Posted by cats_five View Post
As it should be. Data protection and all that.
They should do the same with the ADS-B signal.
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Old 12th Jun 2020, 15:54
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Because international air law was set up to allow international transit, not to enable people to choose the cheapest, lowest common denominator option, and keep out of their regulators’ sight by flagging light aeroplanes out. The FAA are very clear that they don’t have, never will have, and don’t want to have, the resources to monitor N-reg light aircraft overseas.
Perhaps EASA should make it a bit easier to operate light aircraft in Europe then?

On a slightly different topic, would anyone like to take a guess at how much of a market is there for FAA flight training in Europe - both initial, and recurrent (flight review, IPC) ?
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Old 12th Jun 2020, 20:44
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Originally Posted by Booglebox View Post
Perhaps EASA should make it a bit easier to operate light aircraft in Europe then?
Well, there are plenty of EASA-registered light aircraft flying in Europe, in fact many more than non-EASA registered, so it’s not impossible.

Many uninsured cars are removed from British roads every day. Any parallels there?
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 02:23
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Originally Posted by Monty Niveau View Post
Because international air law was set up to allow international transit, not to enable people to choose the cheapest, lowest common denominator option, and keep out of their regulators’ sight by flagging light aeroplanes out. The FAA are very clear that they don’t have, never will have, and don’t want to have, the resources to monitor N-reg light aircraft overseas.
Funny how that “lowest common denominator” has as good a safety record as the platinum plated over the top UK and European regulatory regime......
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 08:28
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Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever View Post
Funny how that “lowest common denominator” has as good a safety record as the platinum plated over the top UK and European regulatory regime......
it’s a shame EASA didn’t adopt the FAA FARs instead of making up a new set of rules
maybe the CAA will adopt them if we end up leaving EASA after brexit EASA hasnt had that good safety record up to now
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