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Gadget freak 4th Jun 2020 08:38

N Reg in the UK
 
Happy for substantiated fact based answers or total guesses. Approximately how many N reg aircraft do you think are currently based in the UK?

GF

N707ZS 5th Jun 2020 06:53

If anyone knows a member of LAAS aviation there group has an online list which you used to be able to look at, it is now password restricted to members.

cats_five 5th Jun 2020 11:36


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 10802638)
If anyone knows a member of LAAS aviation there group has an online list which you used to be able to look at, it is now password restricted to members.

As it should be. Data protection and all that.

horatio_b 5th Jun 2020 11:49

The last version of the LAAS aviation list which was publicly available (in 2016) contains 1007 N-registered aircraft, although this covers UK and Ireland in full and also includes many non-airworthy aircraft. No ownership details were disclosed.

roger4 9th Jun 2020 19:44

The LAAS on-line list currently records 987 N-reg aircraft, but as horatio_b correctly states, this includes Ireland based aircraft and those in museums etc.

The ownership details including registered addresses of all N-reg aircraft are freely available on the FAA "N-Number" website.

Gadget freak 10th Jun 2020 14:07


Originally Posted by roger4 (Post 10806996)
The LAAS on-line list currently records 987 N-reg aircraft, but as horatio_b correctly states, this includes Ireland based aircraft and those in museums etc.

The ownership details including registered addresses of all N-reg aircraft are freely available on the FAA "N-Number" website.

Good point. N-reg database has 761 registered to UK addresses, the vast majority with Southern Aircraft Consultancy. More than I thought there would be.
GF

Monty Niveau 10th Jun 2020 20:45

And all on flags of convenience, circumventing proper regulation, and contributing to the problem, not the solution.

md 600 driver 11th Jun 2020 18:16


Originally Posted by Monty Niveau (Post 10807940)
And all on flags of convenience, circumventing proper regulation, and contributing to the problem, not the solution.

why are they circumventing proper regulation ?

Monty Niveau 11th Jun 2020 19:10

Because international air law was set up to allow international transit, not to enable people to choose the cheapest, lowest common denominator option, and keep out of their regulators’ sight by flagging light aeroplanes out. The FAA are very clear that they don’t have, never will have, and don’t want to have, the resources to monitor N-reg light aircraft overseas.

jmmoric 12th Jun 2020 11:26


Originally Posted by cats_five (Post 10802930)
As it should be. Data protection and all that.

They should do the same with the ADS-B signal.

Booglebox 12th Jun 2020 15:54


Because international air law was set up to allow international transit, not to enable people to choose the cheapest, lowest common denominator option, and keep out of their regulators’ sight by flagging light aeroplanes out. The FAA are very clear that they don’t have, never will have, and don’t want to have, the resources to monitor N-reg light aircraft overseas.
Perhaps EASA should make it a bit easier to operate light aircraft in Europe then?

On a slightly different topic, would anyone like to take a guess at how much of a market is there for FAA flight training in Europe - both initial, and recurrent (flight review, IPC) ?

Monty Niveau 12th Jun 2020 20:44


Originally Posted by Booglebox (Post 10809444)
Perhaps EASA should make it a bit easier to operate light aircraft in Europe then?

Well, there are plenty of EASA-registered light aircraft flying in Europe, in fact many more than non-EASA registered, so it’s not impossible.

Many uninsured cars are removed from British roads every day. Any parallels there?

Big Pistons Forever 13th Jun 2020 02:23


Originally Posted by Monty Niveau (Post 10808755)
Because international air law was set up to allow international transit, not to enable people to choose the cheapest, lowest common denominator option, and keep out of their regulators’ sight by flagging light aeroplanes out. The FAA are very clear that they don’t have, never will have, and don’t want to have, the resources to monitor N-reg light aircraft overseas.

Funny how that “lowest common denominator” has as good a safety record as the platinum plated over the top UK and European regulatory regime......

md 600 driver 14th Jun 2020 08:28


Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever (Post 10809765)
Funny how that “lowest common denominator” has as good a safety record as the platinum plated over the top UK and European regulatory regime......

it’s a shame EASA didn’t adopt the FAA FARs instead of making up a new set of rules
maybe the CAA will adopt them if we end up leaving EASA after brexit EASA hasnt had that good safety record up to now


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