Good R/T Apps
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From: Nanaimo (CAC8)
I completely agree with airpolice. There is nothing better than listening to real communications. What is particularly instructive, is listening to non-standard exchanges during unusual circumstances.
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From: Ansião (PT)
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And allow me to warn against the almost blind belief in "apps" that seems to become more and more commonplace. Didn't I recently read a story of someone attacking an aerodrome manager or radio operator or such because the weather did not conform to what her/his app had promised?
And allow me to warn against the almost blind belief in "apps" that seems to become more and more commonplace. Didn't I recently read a story of someone attacking an aerodrome manager or radio operator or such because the weather did not conform to what her/his app had promised?
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From: Twickenham, home of rugby
Didn't I recently read a story of someone attacking an aerodrome manager or radio operator or such because the weather did not conform to what her/his app had promised?
Sorry, hat, coat etc.
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From: Here and there.
If you are close to an ATC tower give them a call and see if you can arrange a day visit. Contrary to popular belief ATCOs will help pilots ;-)
Plugging in on Zone or Tower will not only help with phraseology but the ATCO will be able to explain why things are said in the way they are said. Also it does them no harm to see things from your perspective as a pilot irrespective of your level of experience.
Plugging in on Zone or Tower will not only help with phraseology but the ATCO will be able to explain why things are said in the way they are said. Also it does them no harm to see things from your perspective as a pilot irrespective of your level of experience.
^^^^ I am sure they were flying into Newcastle last Thursday.
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From: House with chimney
One thing is listening and another speaking it out 
Live ATC is good, you have a lot of non standard communications on youtube. If you realy want to practice I would recommend you Vatsim on flight simulator
Live ATC is good, you have a lot of non standard communications on youtube. If you realy want to practice I would recommend you Vatsim on flight simulator
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From: The sky mainly
For clarity, I have a young relative who will shortly be attending a CAP 413 R/T course as part of his sponsored PPL. The instructor has told him to swot-up before the course starts. A day visit to an ATC unit or just listening in to some R/T chat probably won't give him the depth of knowledge. I recall a new pilot telling me that he used an App to learn R/T and that it was great. Unfortunately, at the time I didn't have need to ask him which App he used. Has anybody got any suggestions?
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From: High Wycombe
For clarity, I have a young relative who will shortly be attending a CAP 413 R/T course as part of his sponsored PPL. The instructor has told him to swot-up before the course starts. A day visit to an ATC unit or just listening in to some R/T chat probably won't give him the depth of knowledge. I recall a new pilot telling me that he used an App to learn R/T and that it was great. Unfortunately, at the time I didn't have need to ask him which App he used. Has anybody got any suggestions?
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From: Banished (twice) to the pointless forest
Spell your surname, backwards, phonetically.
The fact that I was very familiar with the alphabet, having been listening to radio traffic for years while at school, made it easy for me.
Nowadays I hear people flying who just don't seem to have studied it in any form.
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From: Canada
I remember that from my PPL GS. The student the instructor pick responded with “ Oscar Tango Tango Oscar “ so he picked another student who was from some obscure Eastern European country. His name had just about every letter in the alphabet and doing it backwards was a challenge for the owner even without using the phonetic alphabet. After about a minute of torture the instructor finally gave up and said OK., my name is Wilson, spell that backwards !
