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Old 15th Feb 2018, 13:23   #41 (permalink)
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I'm a little surprised by all those who seem to think that GB aviation won't prosper outside EASAland.


What do they think was happening to GB aviation before we joined the EEC/EU ?


More to the point; there are many more countries operating efficient and dynamic aviation industries outside EASA than there are within. The likes of Brazil, America, Australia, New Zealand, Canada Indonesia, China, India appear to be sufficiently well organised to run their aviation affairs quite successfully without the intervention of the restrictive EASA.
I can only assume that you don't have recourse to interface with many of the NRAs on your list?
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Old 15th Feb 2018, 14:58   #42 (permalink)
 
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Too obscure for me !
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Old 15th Feb 2018, 15:09   #43 (permalink)
 
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"National Regulatory Authorities"

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Old 15th Feb 2018, 15:24   #44 (permalink)
 
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Hunter, Harrier, Buccaneer. Hawk, Vulcan, Canberra. To name a few. They seemed reasonably innovative and successful.
"Going down the pan". You should have been at Farnboro' during the 50s and 60s.
Er you do know they are all military products and have little or nothing to to do with the civil oversight and regulatory system and you may not have noticed but the world has moved on by half a century.
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Er you do know they are all military products and have little or nothing to to do with the civil oversight and regulatory system and you may not have noticed but the world has moved on by half a century.


Err, I think that the reference was to 'world famous British aircraft' and made no distinction between military and commercial.


One of my points concerned the ability - or otherwise of, the GB aviation industry before the Blessed Heath motored us into EU serfdom !
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...but we were discussing the Brexit consequences on the CIVIL regulatory/administrative system for aviation, which is why people have found your post confusing.

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Old 15th Feb 2018, 18:16   #48 (permalink)
 
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Err, I think that the reference was to 'world famous British aircraft' and made no distinction between military and commercial.


One of my points concerned the ability - or otherwise of, the GB aviation industry before the Blessed Heath motored us into EU serfdom !
I did say "Still flying" Things like Cubs, Champs, 172's, 182's things that have stood the test of time, that people still want.

UK military aviation _may_ have been ok back then, the civil stuff was rubbish.
So, before we went into the EU, we were dismal.
Once we are out of the EU, we'll all but vanish.
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Old 15th Feb 2018, 18:33   #49 (permalink)
 
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the civil stuff was rubbish
I donít think so: Trident, BAC 111, 146, VC 10
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Jetstream, bulldog.................
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airwave45 there was a lot of political stuff going on then with the end of the Marshall Plan etc. In 1945 the USA was the richest country in the world (the only country to financially profit from WW2), they had the foresight to take aluminium skinned aircraft to the masses. We stuck with fabric covered steel tube. Bugger.!

There is still a market for Austers, I sold my last one to a gentleman in Belgium and it was a more versatile aircraft than the Piper L4H I had before it.

Try to buy an Auster today ...................

You can loop a Cub as an old guy I worked with told me (nobody told him he couldn't). I'm a Brit, I bought the ancient Auster aeroplane, checked the paper work, it's stressed to +4.5g -1.5g so +3g loops are easy.................

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