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Old 19th May 2017 | 11:55
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The answer to this question is in my brain somewhere, but I am unable to access it If I fly to an airport that is within another airport's control area (such as Coventry, in Birmingham's CTZ), do I need to contact Birmingham approach, or is all my radio work done just to Coventry?
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Old 19th May 2017 | 14:00
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JOMQ - the first step is to clarify the airspace situation, so in respect of Coventry, revisit your statements about "within...control area" and "CTZ".
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All depends on your intended route and intentions. Provide some detail into that and we can answer your question.

Assumng Cov is your intended destination here and is not be used purely as an example. You can easily fly in without speaking to Brum (maybe use their listening sqwark) and in so doing, avoid the base of Brum's nearby controlled airspace. That would suit all parties I'm sure.
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Old 19th May 2017 | 15:37
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the first step is to clarify the airspace situation, so in respect of Coventry, revisit your statements about "within...control area" and "CTZ".
I'll rephrase, the light blue bit on the chart.

All depends on your intended route and intentions. Provide some detail into that and we can answer your question.

Assumng Cov is your intended destination here and is not be used purely as an example. You can easily fly in without speaking to Brum (maybe use their listening sqwark) and in so doing, avoid the base of Brum's nearby controlled airspace. That would suit all parties I'm sure.
I'll be coming from Cambridge, and pretty much a straight route West, so I guess that as long as I'm below 1500' as I get there (which I would be anyway), there won't be a problem?
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Old 19th May 2017 | 16:45
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There is no need to speak to Birmingham as long as you keep out of their airspace.

When you call up Coventry (after listening to the ATIS) they will give you a squawk. There is no overhead join, instead you join from one of the three VRPs. Draycote water is the easiest one to find.
Just remember not to bust Birmingham's zone at 1500ft on the way in.
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Old 19th May 2017 | 17:21
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Thats all very straight forward then.

Call Cov and head for Draycote Water VRP. They will ask you to report at that VRP inbound. Probably give you a sqwark regardless of your service needs. It gets busy at Draycote so keep a good look out for inbounds and other passing traffic going elsewhere.

From Draycote, the norm is to head North for a south westerly 23 arrival.

No need to talk to Brum........

Inbound, their controlled airspace base near Draycote is 3500, so don't worry about that and you should be well under the 2000 base and well inside the Charlie Tango NDB.

Outbound, just be mindful on departure of the 1500 base inside the zone and stay with Cov Radar all the way until clear to the East.

If in doubt ask them. Good Controllers at EGBE.
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Old 19th May 2017 | 17:36
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Coventry are not in Birminghams control area, they are under it.......
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Old 19th May 2017 | 17:57
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Fair comment.

The BB CTA 1500-4500 block runs directly above and not inside the BE zone. Stay under 1500 ft ALT in the zone to remain clear of busting.
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Old 19th May 2017 | 21:46
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I cannot see the point of this question. Before entering any bit of controlled airspace, get a clearance from the service in charge of it. For CTR's that's ABC tower, usually, for TMA's XYZ approach.

"Control area" is not a clear term imho. But the English seem to like confusing phrases, these days...
Coventry are not in
are there several?
well inside the Charlie Tango NDB
it must be cosy but perhaps stuffy inside an NDB, I think
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If your being sent to Coventry I doubt you'll be speaking to anybody at all.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xoZwn9zNmYk

A video of an arrival at Cov
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Old 20th May 2017 | 13:25
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Originally Posted by JustOneMoreQuestion.
Hi All,
The answer to this question is in my brain somewhere, but I am unable to access it If I fly to an airport that is within another airport's control area (such as Coventry, in Birmingham's CTZ), do I need to contact Birmingham approach, or is all my radio work done just to Coventry?
Thank you
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