FI pre course requirements - cross country
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FI pre course requirements - cross country
For PPL holders wishing to become a FI there is a requirement for:
Does this really mean VFR? So a flight parts of which were IFR OCAS due to poor weather doesn't count?
e) have completed a VFR cross-country flight as PIC, including a flight of at least 540 km (300 NM) in the course of which full stop landings at 2 different aerodromes shall be made
It means what it says.
Otherwise some airliner magenta line minder might include 300nm and 2 landings of little more than watching the auto flight system...
Otherwise some airliner magenta line minder might include 300nm and 2 landings of little more than watching the auto flight system...
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You can fly 300 miles watching the magenta line in VMC, and as long as you fly at VFR levels not IFR levels (if you care about such things) then you're VRF ...
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Yes, but if I were an 'airliner magenta line minder' I'd presumably already have one.
I understand they are trying to replicate the CPL QXC, it's just that it seems a bit perverse to require it to be VFR. If I had a Cirrus with autopilot it would be a doddle. IFR in a 45-year-old PA28 with nothing more sophisticated than VOR/DME it's hard, and it's ironic that I might not meet the criteria despite having easily exceeded the mileage and landaway requirements during Project Propeller 2016. (Benson-Shoreham-Leeds East-Shoreham-Benson, with the first two landings off IAPs (Doncaster ILS in the first case), the second two VFR in highly marginal vis.)
I'll check the logbook - I did PP once before and I think it was all VFR (Benson-Bournemouth-Wickenby and back should cover the mileage!)
I understand they are trying to replicate the CPL QXC, it's just that it seems a bit perverse to require it to be VFR. If I had a Cirrus with autopilot it would be a doddle. IFR in a 45-year-old PA28 with nothing more sophisticated than VOR/DME it's hard, and it's ironic that I might not meet the criteria despite having easily exceeded the mileage and landaway requirements during Project Propeller 2016. (Benson-Shoreham-Leeds East-Shoreham-Benson, with the first two landings off IAPs (Doncaster ILS in the first case), the second two VFR in highly marginal vis.)
I'll check the logbook - I did PP once before and I think it was all VFR (Benson-Bournemouth-Wickenby and back should cover the mileage!)
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You can do it over 2 days - which might make it easier / more fun.
When I did mine (for CPL) I:
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When I did mine (for CPL) I:
- Flew Denham - Retford (for fuel)
- Flew Retford - Cumbernauld
- Stayed overnight with friends
- Flew Cumbernauld to Denham (drop passenger)
- Flew Denham - Sandown
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Otherwise some airliner magenta line minder might include 300nm and 2 landings of little more than watching the auto flight system...
But if I had a CPL I wouldn't need it!
300nm VFR x/c with two stops...
Crikey, its not that onerous is it?
Just get in your aeroplane and do it. Much easier than whingeing about a requirement that you are unlikely to get changed. Surely such a trip would be a pleasure anyway; or am I the only one who enjoys flying?
Crikey, its not that onerous is it?
Just get in your aeroplane and do it. Much easier than whingeing about a requirement that you are unlikely to get changed. Surely such a trip would be a pleasure anyway; or am I the only one who enjoys flying?
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I am a bit confused by this thread...
What's so difficult to do a 300nm VFR flight in a single day? (let alone 2!) I mean, seriously? Average "soam-can" goes around 90 - 100kts, so that's a whole 3 hours 20minutes... + cup of tea / coffee & bacon bap + paying landing fees, that's 5 hours from start to finish! And a good day of fun! On top of which you can even bring your friends along for the ride!!
What's so difficult to do a 300nm VFR flight in a single day? (let alone 2!) I mean, seriously? Average "soam-can" goes around 90 - 100kts, so that's a whole 3 hours 20minutes... + cup of tea / coffee & bacon bap + paying landing fees, that's 5 hours from start to finish! And a good day of fun! On top of which you can even bring your friends along for the ride!!