8.33khz options
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TOO - yes, just read Pilot today. Not so bothered about having made the change, because I swapped out the Michel MX11 that was second box. If this means the King 155 I kept remains fully useable, I'm happy.
But I do think they should get on with the claims. It's been 60 working days since submission, and if they had 2000, then is 33 a day hard to process? And if not, that means that mine must for some reason be the last one to be processed........
Just hoping someone in the organisation follows these threads, and will take note
But I do think they should get on with the claims. It's been 60 working days since submission, and if they had 2000, then is 33 a day hard to process? And if not, that means that mine must for some reason be the last one to be processed........
Just hoping someone in the organisation follows these threads, and will take note
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From: Faversham
Rebate getting closer?
Had a call from a gentleman at CAA today, who was processing my application. Small query to confirm my joint ownership (with my wife) of the aircraft, and he was happy. Said that if he didn't call again (within the next five minutes), then everything was in order and application would be passed. Phone didn't ring again, so looking forward to bank transfer 
. Hopefully soon, but still not holding breath.........
. Hopefully soon, but still not holding breath.........
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
I see in Pilot magazine that there's talk of the CAA applying for derogation.
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Just got our group PA28 back from its annual with a new Icom A220 fitted in place of our King box. Very modern, large clear display and good sound quality. Went for a first flight with it and quite impressed. When I landed I thought I'd try switching it into 8.33 mode - so into the setup menu select 8.33khz but now it's in set 8.33 I can't seem to get any 25khz frequencies to come up on the display, they just don't exist! Put in Cumbernauld 120.605 fine but then tried Scottish 119.875 & it wasn't there. What am I doing wrong?
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Fair enough, Philip - and apologies for the previous intemperance which I will now amend.
So the comment above stating that.....
was the result of someone mis-reading the magazine, I guess?
Anyway, AOPA (UK), having persuaded the UK CAA to apply successfully for 8.33 funding for UK aircraft equipage, is NOT asking the CAA for any derogation from the regulation.
For those still to do so, do NOT delay your application! The CAA still has some money left to allocate, but it can't last forever!
So the comment above stating that.....
"I see in Pilot magazine that there's talk of the CAA applying for derogation."
Anyway, AOPA (UK), having persuaded the UK CAA to apply successfully for 8.33 funding for UK aircraft equipage, is NOT asking the CAA for any derogation from the regulation.
For those still to do so, do NOT delay your application! The CAA still has some money left to allocate, but it can't last forever!
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Because each funding transfer incurs a cost which the CAA has to pay from the 8.33 pot, the plan is to minimise that by releasing the first tranche in one go in about (I gather) 4 weeks' time.
That will then mean more funds are available for the next tranche, rather than having had to be spent in admin. The CAA has made it quite clear that the maximum possible level of funding shall go to the end users and NOT get tied up in admin fees, so their plan should now ensure that the 8.33 pot will benefit as many aircraft equipage applications as possible.
That will then mean more funds are available for the next tranche, rather than having had to be spent in admin. The CAA has made it quite clear that the maximum possible level of funding shall go to the end users and NOT get tied up in admin fees, so their plan should now ensure that the 8.33 pot will benefit as many aircraft equipage applications as possible.
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From: Faversham
Woohoo it's coming!
Just received mail to say rebate approved and will be in bank next Monday 14 August, or within week following. That's exactly 6 months since I submitted claim (on Valentine's Day). Long time for them to tell me they love me too........
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From: 5 nM S of TNT, UK
Just got our group PA28 back from its annual with a new Icom A220 fitted in place of our King box. Very modern, large clear display and good sound quality. Went for a first flight with it and quite impressed. When I landed I thought I'd try switching it into 8.33 mode - so into the setup menu select 8.33khz but now it's in set 8.33 I can't seem to get any 25khz frequencies to come up on the display, they just don't exist! Put in Cumbernauld 120.605 fine but then tried Scottish 119.875 & it wasn't there. What am I doing wrong?
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From: MAN. UK.
Despite having had a claim in since March and heard nothing direct (apart from the acknowledgement so have presumed all is proceeding OK) I have today received a mail generated from my G-INFO data asking if I want to make a claim?
FFS can't the CAA do anything without causing confusion and doubt!
Has anyone actually been paid yet?
FFS can't the CAA do anything without causing confusion and doubt!
Has anyone actually been paid yet?
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From: Down at the sharp pointy end, where all the weather is made.
We got our £650 last month.
Today's e-mail seems to be a plea for everyone to come forward and claim the money; seems they haven't had the uptake they were anticipating. Are there STILL folk who think there'll be another extension?
Even if you're in a queue with an avionics shop, you can still buy the kit now and make a claim.
TOO
Today's e-mail seems to be a plea for everyone to come forward and claim the money; seems they haven't had the uptake they were anticipating. Are there STILL folk who think there'll be another extension?
Even if you're in a queue with an avionics shop, you can still buy the kit now and make a claim.
TOO
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From: Newick
Muffin, MetOffice.
I too replaced my ICOM A200 with the new 220T and also discovered the problem. Spoke to their people at LAA Sywell and was reassured they had contacted the manufacturer in Japan to request a fix.
I'm very happy with the radio and, as I don't need 8.33 yet, am happy to wait for the fix.
Hmmm? Japan - speedy fix? We know a song about that don't we Colin
I too replaced my ICOM A200 with the new 220T and also discovered the problem. Spoke to their people at LAA Sywell and was reassured they had contacted the manufacturer in Japan to request a fix.
I'm very happy with the radio and, as I don't need 8.33 yet, am happy to wait for the fix.
Hmmm? Japan - speedy fix? We know a song about that don't we Colin
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From: Glen Prosen, Scotland
TheOddOne, evidently not. We bought our radio a few months ago and had the application rejected as we're still waiting to have it fitted. There is a big problem finding anyone able to do it in Scotland.
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From: Behind the curve
Just got our group PA28 back from its annual with a new Icom A220 fitted in place of our King box. Very modern, large clear display and good sound quality. Went for a first flight with it and quite impressed. When I landed I thought I'd try switching it into 8.33 mode - so into the setup menu select 8.33khz but now it's in set 8.33 I can't seem to get any 25khz frequencies to come up on the display, they just don't exist! Put in Cumbernauld 120.605 fine but then tried Scottish 119.875 & it wasn't there. What am I doing wrong?
Hi Metoffice. I bought my Icom A220 last November and eventually got it installed and operational in April. Subsequently there was a recall for a software update, something to do with squelch I think. It was sent back and returned in about 3 days. But it picks up interference whenever my Airmaster prop motor changes pitch and no amount of adjustment can overcome this. So I cruise with the prop set in manual control.
As regards the 8.33 vs 25 KHz mode issue, yes I soon discovered that when in 8.33 KHz mode the nearest "match" to a 25 KHz frequency doesn't work for reasons beyond my limited mental abilities, so I simply have to return to 25 KHz spacing mode. Not too difficult; just a couple of button pushes.