iPad for flying

[ShyTorque]

I'd say that modern technology has made my life, regarding flying for a living, undoubtedly much easier, not more difficult. I began flying in 1972 (as far as first solo goes) and the ready availability of flight planning information is a quantum leap ahead of how little I had available to me (and my instructors) back then.

[Bobby Hart]

Piltdown, It is quite true that the level of GPS error is not known (because of course, if the total error was known then it could be corrected for) and maybe in the future a clever mathematician will discover a way to derive that error...

Generally speaking, that GPS error is based on the number of satellites that the device can "see". The more satellites available, the lower the error. Since the Russian GLONASS network was opened up, modern GPS devices (such as the Garmin Glo and GNS2000) can now access a wider constellation of satellites, which greatly increases the number of satellites that are visible to the device, and thus, decreases the error.

In decent environmental conditions you can expect to see your position +/- <10m which is pretty good for tracking and proving.

One other thing that is not very well understood by the GPS using public is the broad number of environmental factors that can seriously affect GPS. Obviously anything that blocks the receivers view of the sky is a problem, but I have also had guys tell me about instances where a poorly shielded radio messed up GPS when set to a particular frequency, or where GPS dropped out when flying over a particular area - which turned out to be a truckstop where a sleeping trucker may have been trying to stop his boss from tracking his nap! Its these kinds of things which could be elaborated on in a post-PPL classroom to augment understanding about the reality of these magic boxes.

[Crash one]

There is also a note at the bottom of the screen on Runway HD of GPS accuracy. At this moment mine reads 65metres.

[Bobby Hart]

Crash, I imagine that is a broad value served up by Android which attempts to speculate a conservative error value rather than actually deriving it mathematically - otherwise Runway HD could reliably use that error value to cancel the actual error.


There are lots of different ways that GPS error can creep in (such as atmospheric effects like inconsistencies in the ionosphere) and the device cant account for them all.

[late-joiner]

Originally Posted by Bobby Hart

Crash, I imagine that is a broad value served up by Android which attempts to speculate a conservative error value rather than actually deriving it mathematically - otherwise Runway HD could reliably use that error value to cancel the actual error.

Absolutely not. Just because you know that a GPS derived position has say a 90% likelihood of being within 65m of the real position does not allow you to determine that real position. You do not know which direction the error is in.

[Crash one]

Originally Posted by late-joiner

Absolutely not. Just because you know that a GPS derived position has say a 90% likelihood of being within 65m of the real position does not allow you to determine that real position. You do not know which direction the error is in.

Thank you gentlemen. I would think a 65metre radius of actual position will do for me.
If I could follow a magenta line within that limit I would be extremely pleased with myself.