NATS makes London atz class D
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NATS makes London atz class D
Looks like we are having some more EU harmonisation.... London CTR has become Class D, so now GA vfr flights can route through it.
Change is coming to the London CTR - NATS
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Change is coming to the London CTR - NATS
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Last edited by phiggsbroadband; 19th Jul 2016 at 09:10. Reason: correction re. post #2
I think you'll find that this took place nearly two years ago.
From the link:-
From the link:-
What you need to know
1. On 18 September 2014 the London CTR will change from Class A to Class D airspace, matching the other major London airports.
1. On 18 September 2014 the London CTR will change from Class A to Class D airspace, matching the other major London airports.
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Indeed. Or perhaps it's just that they've been so excited by the recent arrival of modern inventions such as 'fire' and 'the wheel', that this gem of information has been overlook-you'd?
Guess news doesn't reach Wales that fast!
Looks like we are having some more EU harmonisation.... London CTR has become Class D, so now GA vfr flights can route through it.
Change is coming to the London CTR - NATS
.
.
Change is coming to the London CTR - NATS
.
.
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I operate in the LHR Zone almost every working day. I've certainly not had a problem obtaining a VFR clearance. Maybe whoever told you there was a problem didn't understand the other rules and regulations or had no experience?
F'rinstance, previously with one routing ASCOT - BUR under SVFR, they wouldn't normally clear another aircraft in the opposite direction SVFR, now under VFR they can.
I think you'll find it was ICAO harmonisation, (SVFR banned in Class A airspace)
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As I understand things of old (although my professional experience in UK only goes back 39 years), many years ago the U.K. declared a national variation to the ICAO requirements, along with a number of other instances. As it now has done for variations to SERA rules.
But no longer over this particular issue.
But no longer over this particular issue.
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LONDON CTR TRANSITS
If N to S then use Beaconsfield as an entry point then west of BURNHAM, to Ascot usually not above 1200 ft LON QNH then out the SW corner under radar control. A nice early request, planned well and flown in accordance with the clearance will cause no problems (of course have your Plan B ready just in case).
Under no circumstances freecall 'Heathrow Tower', they have enough on their plates without working unexpected transit traffic.
You SHOULD make your initial call to 'Heathrow Radar' on 125.625 unless you are working a radar unit which is handing you over to them.
Last edited by chevvron; 25th Jul 2016 at 22:18.
> So calling up Heathrow Tower and 'Requesting route North to South, through your overhead at 1200ft', might work eh?
No problem, done it. But you do need to be in a helicopter. (And you phrase the request slightly differently, but that's a detail).
In a small plane, I've been SVFR but only on the outer fringes of what was then Class A, now Class D. You can't get anywhere close to either the airport or central London.
When I did my London helicopter tour in April, we called "Heathrow Special", not "Radar". And yes, we did get to talk to Heathrow Tower.
No problem, done it. But you do need to be in a helicopter. (And you phrase the request slightly differently, but that's a detail).
In a small plane, I've been SVFR but only on the outer fringes of what was then Class A, now Class D. You can't get anywhere close to either the airport or central London.
When I did my London helicopter tour in April, we called "Heathrow Special", not "Radar". And yes, we did get to talk to Heathrow Tower.
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