N Reg Ops EU domiciled pilots

[bookworm]

But I don't see any difference from the previous year's extensions, and it hasn't caused any problems with flights.

In the previous years it was a derogation. This is a temporary extension, hence the UK airspace limitation. A derogation will follow, without the limitation.

[Cathar]

My understanding is that the derogations have always been specific to the territory of the Member State making the derogation. This is confirmed in recital 5 of Regulation 2016/539:

"(5) The period during which Member States may decide not to apply the provisions of Regulation (EU) No 1178/2011 in their territory to pilots holding a licence and associated medical certificate issued by a third country involved in the non-commercial operation of certain aircraft should be extended........"

[bookworm]

It's a good catch but I don't find it illuminating either way. It says "territory", not airspace, and could simply mean "established or residing in their territory". The more typically assumed interpretation is that the derogation applies in that way. There's no question that CAT operators whose states applied the derogation had no issues flying in those that didn't.

[Pace]

The chaos that has caused the CAA 1 month extension of the extension to 2017 has I have been told through a reliable source been caused by a powerful legal challenge to the regs by a large group in France. the French always get what they want not like us Brits who roll on our backs and comply with all. Its to do with flight schools being compromised by the regs in France

[Fly4Business]

It is not only flight schools, also the fight on the commercial SET(IFR) battleground and various others thy try to trade ...

[Flying Tooth Driller]

CAA confirmed derogation till April 2017 in a notice yesterday. See you then for the next episode?

[piperboy84]

Sorted !! Fire up the N reg'r

[Jonzarno]

There is a certain delicious irony in seeing this piece of bureaucratic idiocy being thwarted by the bureaucratic incompetence of the very bureaucrats who are trying to impose it.

Given that it is allegedly in the name of safety: I wonder how many N Reg aircraft flown by FAA Licensed pilots have plummeted into puppy farms because the pilot hadn't converted their licence since the first of these derogations happened?

[Sam Rutherford]

You'll know when the regulations change, because mid-flight you'll suddenly be unable to fly. Obviously...

[Above The Clouds]

Maybe they are waiting for the results of the Brexit referendum in June, I am guessing but if the UK leave the EU all the licensing will possibly change again.

[Hawker 800]

Apparently not. At my most recent seminar at the Belgrano, this was a subject of much talk. It would appear that nothing much would change, if any.

[Pace]

Hawker800

without doubt on a brexit the UK would incorporate EASA Regs but the portion on third country would not legally fit

i presume it would be up to the CAA to rewrite that portion to fit but equally not sure by incorporating EASA bespoke re writing of sections would be legal anyway

EASA would have to amend the regs to include plus the UK

That is not as straight forward as it appears either

[The Ancient Geek]

No problem - you can be a member of EASA without bing in the EU.

[swbok]

Originally Posted by The Ancient Geek

No problem - you can be a member of EASA without bing in the EU.

Indeed many EASA members are not Member States of the EU.

Hopefully the FAA will keep EASA going round in circles for many years to come!
EASA should leave N reg ac alone.

[Katamarino]

The whole concept of having different licences for different countries is a nonsense. A single ICAO licence that's valid worldwide, on all registrations of aircraft, is the only sensible answer.

[Jetblu]

That would just be too easy, as it would do away with all the bureaucracy and red tape.