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Old 22nd Apr 2015, 14:20
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Old Buckenham - Accident

Just getting reports here of an accident involving a "light aircraft" at Old Buckenham.

EDIT: Social media reporting an aerobatic aircraft has crashed on the airfield.

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Oh dear not good.

http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/...ield_1_4044645

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Sadly the pilot of the crash at Old Buckenham has died. RIP whoever you are. Thoughts with the family.

Pilot dies after plane crashes at Old Buckenham Airfield - News - Eastern Daily Press
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Crikey, not good. I hope the family were informed before that video was released. Isn't one of the guys on here one of the Wildcats?
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Gutted. A true professional. I have seen him display many times and he is up there amongst the best.


Sincere condolences to family.


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David has just been named now. A much better video here to remember him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIXP83bsL48

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I've respectfully asked the EDP to consider removing the video from their website...
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Me too:

The editor phoned back with apologies as the moment of impact was put up accidentally.

He has now edited out the final seconds.

As the rest of the video is a reasonable tribute to David and as they have a duty to report the news I don't think we can object to what remains.

It was inevitable that something would surface as the event was a press preview of the forthcoming Old Buck Airshow season and the place was heaving with cameras/reporters.

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Old 22nd Apr 2015, 20:55
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Given who the pilot was, the purpose of the flight and the aircraft type, then a failure to recover from a simple spin suggests to me a stuck rudder would be well up on any list of possibilities. Whatever the reason a very sad event.
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John,

G-loc perhaps? An abracadabra in a Yak-52 goes pretty much instantaneously to -4G. The film shows similar plus going very rapidly positive shortly after with no apparent attempt at recovery. Will retract all if considered inappropriate.

Very sad. Sincere condolences to all at Wildcat and beyond.
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Condolences to all concerned, a very sad day.
This accident seems very similar to Nick Turvey's 1981 crash at a show at Lanseria. He greyed out due to G in his Pitts ZS-ZAP and came down in an inverted flat spin. There was no fire and Nick survived and spent around a year in hospital with too many broken bones to count.

Nick had a policy of only carrying enough fuel to somplete his display and land, this almost certainly was a factor in his survival.
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Very sorry to hear this sad news.

I sometimes walk my dogs around the strip where David kept his aeroplane and had several friendly chats with him about matters aeronautical.

A great loss. RIP.
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Took this picture back in 13 is it David ?


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Agreed. Pilot incapacitation is always a possibility in this sort of event and clearly cannot be ruled out.

It would be relevant to know how the original manoeuvre compared to pervious routines done by the same pilot and I am sure the AAIB will be looking at that with their usual care.

Sad though it is of course he was doing what he loved and it would not have hurt (in contrast to getting old). I hope that will be of some consolation to his loved ones and friends.
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Yes, That's David.

The smile was typical and constant.

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thing is a lomcovak is a negative g manoeuvre, blood goes to the head so greying/blacking out doesn't happen.

and compared with what else you can do in such a plane is not very high G either.

of course he could have had a physical problem or something jammed in the elevator/rudder - all speculation really and we should wait for the report.

Its all very sad for all his friends and family and a reminder to all who do aerobatics that at display/competition heights a parachute is often of little use then things go wrong
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David doing what he Liked doing (end of clip)
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thing is a lomcovak is a negative g manoeuvre, blood goes to the head so greying/blacking out doesn't happen.
True but a quick reversal to extreme positive can do nasty things.
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True but a quick reversal to extreme positive can do nasty things.
Agreed but this is unlikely to be a factor - while several physiological factors can affect G tolerance by a surprising amount, the figure and subsequent -ve and +ve spin modes are not particularly high G for this level of pilot. An outside/inside 'S' is much more likely to switch a pilot off. However, although nothing can be discounted, we will probably never know. Not least because the AAIB obviously have no FDR data to go on. In order to rotate the aircraft around the pitch axis, pro tumble inputs tend to produce a negative spin once the tumble decays, and subsequent recovery can become an erect flat spin. The figure can be difficult to consistently repeat and the resultant spin modes burn height. David was highly skilled at tumbles and very current but sadly unlucky on this occasion. I am very saddened - he was an absolutely lovely man who contributed so much and will be sorely missed by so many.
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