Bi annual Revalidation Flight Expired
Yes. In FAA land things are different. 'Biennials' there have to be no more than 2 years apart, and so are truly 'biennial'!
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Thanks for all your help...
Thanks for all your replies.... I am going to book in for an hours instruction at my local school (where the CFI is also an examiner), and take it from there..... slightly annoyed with myself for allowing my SEP (Land) rating to "expire" (sorry I didn't make that bit clearer) prior to getting an hour with an instructor.... even more annoying that I now have to hire an unfamiliar aircraft to do a skills test in when I have a perfectly good Emeraude sat doing nothing. Lesson learnt - definitely. Thanks again everyone.
Hi Andrew. Thought we might have lost you way back there.
If your Sep Class Rating has expired, then my original reply applies, but why not do any required training and test in your own aircraft? If he's not prepared to do the test in a tailwheel aircraft. send me a pm, ok?
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If your Sep Class Rating has expired, then my original reply applies, but why not do any required training and test in your own aircraft? If he's not prepared to do the test in a tailwheel aircraft. send me a pm, ok?
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bose,
Under EASA there is no 'three month window' for SEP Revalidation by Experience. Once the required second year experience is gained get the Rating signed up asap.
Unfortunately, on National Licences, an SEP Rating can still only be Revalidated during the 3 months prior to expiry.
A bit of a 'nuisance' for those who have both a Part-FCL and a National Licence !
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Not quite right. I had to renew my Part-FCL just recently and there still is the 90 days rule for renewal - you only keep your renewal date, if the bi-annual training flight is within 90 days before SEP expires. You can go earlier, indeed, on a checkride with a FE, if experience requirements are met, but this will extend your SEP two years from the checkride date, not the SEP expiration date. Under EU regulations time between checkrides never exceed 2 years.
Under EASA there is no 'three month window' for SEP Revalidation by Experience. Once the required second year experience is gained get the Rating signed up asap.
Unfortunately, on National Licences, an SEP Rating can still only be Revalidated during the 3 months prior to expiry.
A bit of a 'nuisance' for those who have both a Part-FCL and a National Licence !
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Not quite right. I had to renew my Part-FCL just recently and there still is the 90 days rule for renewal - you only keep your renewal date, if the bi-annual training flight is within 90 days before SEP expires. You can go earlier, indeed, on a checkride with a FE, if experience requirements are met, but this will extend your SEP two years from the checkride date, not the SEP expiration date. Under EU regulations time between checkrides never exceed 2 years.
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ChickenHouse,
Your Post uses misleading or inaccurate terminology and ends up being, pretty much, completely wrong.
You do not seem to have read the previous Posts within this Thread, and certainly not my Post, that you have quoted, and which prompted your reply.
I said 'Revalidation' you talk of 'Renewal'. They are not the same thing - and, in particular, a Renewal can only be achieved via a Licensing Proficiency Check.
I specifically said 'Revalidation by Experience' not by Proficiency Check.
The 'window' is not 90 Days, Part-FCL says 3 Months (so could be 92 Days).
For Revalidation by Proficiency Check: An LPC would have to be taken within 3 Months of expiry in order not to lose any existing SEP Rating validity.
For Revalidation by Experience: The Dual Training Flight could be any time in the 12 Months prior to expiry without losing any existing SEP Rating validity.
There is no such thing as a 'checkride' under EASA.
Even if you meant LPC the statement is still wrong:
- An LPC may not be necessary at all if Revalidation by Experience is used, so time between them could be infinity.
- An LPC for Renewal or Revalidation more than 3 months prior to expiry will result in the Rating being valid for 2 Years from the end of the month the LPC was taken in - so Rating could be valid for 2 Years and 30 Days after the LPC.
- An LPC for Revalidation within 3 Months of the expiry date would result in a Rating valid for 2 Years from the expiry date of the current Rating - so Rating could be valid for up to 2 Years and 91 Days after the LPC.
Your Post uses misleading or inaccurate terminology and ends up being, pretty much, completely wrong.
You do not seem to have read the previous Posts within this Thread, and certainly not my Post, that you have quoted, and which prompted your reply.
I said 'Revalidation' you talk of 'Renewal'. They are not the same thing - and, in particular, a Renewal can only be achieved via a Licensing Proficiency Check.
I specifically said 'Revalidation by Experience' not by Proficiency Check.
you only keep your renewal date, if the bi-annual training flight is within 90 days before SEP expires
For Revalidation by Proficiency Check: An LPC would have to be taken within 3 Months of expiry in order not to lose any existing SEP Rating validity.
For Revalidation by Experience: The Dual Training Flight could be any time in the 12 Months prior to expiry without losing any existing SEP Rating validity.
Under EU regulations time between checkrides never exceed 2 years.
Even if you meant LPC the statement is still wrong:
- An LPC may not be necessary at all if Revalidation by Experience is used, so time between them could be infinity.
- An LPC for Renewal or Revalidation more than 3 months prior to expiry will result in the Rating being valid for 2 Years from the end of the month the LPC was taken in - so Rating could be valid for 2 Years and 30 Days after the LPC.
- An LPC for Revalidation within 3 Months of the expiry date would result in a Rating valid for 2 Years from the expiry date of the current Rating - so Rating could be valid for up to 2 Years and 91 Days after the LPC.
