ppl route

[stranger12]

Hi All,

I have done almost 5 hours and now in circuits, to me that looks good and speedy progress and want to get some feedback from you guys ,

what do you think and what is left now in your view?

instructor said after 4 -5 session , I will be going solo , when solo what do you do and for how many sessions ?


many thanks

[Mach Jump]

I have done almost 5 hours and now in circuits

Assuming that you have done one session in the circuit, That means that you covered all the pre-circuit exercises in around 4 hours, or even less!

I find it difficult to understand how these exercises can possibly be adequately covered is so little time.

I'm also dismayed to hear that your instructor hasn't given you an overall explanation of the structure of the course, and what is involved in each phase.

To answer your specific question, Your First Solo should consist of just one normal circuit and landing. Before sending you solo, Your instructor should be confident that you can cope with anything that could happen to you during that one circuit, of which engine failure, fire, brake failure, radio failure, and the runway becoming unavailable due to an accident are examples.,

After your First Solo, The next step will be a dual check, followed by an hour of solo circuits, then a series of dual-to-solo circuit sessions, covering all the circuit variations, including flapless, glide, short/soft field, and crosswind t/o and ldgs, with you practicing each variation for about an hour each.


MJ

[stranger12]

he is really good and have explained things,

mainly I have read the book and done number of hours on simulator which I guess is why he is going to circuit been confident .

re next stages he has breifly said hence why I asked

[wood73]

I done about 3 hours of dual circuits before going solo at 11 hrs, you then need to complete 3 hours of solo circuits, which due to weather and work commitments has taken a total of 5 hrs flying and 3 months to complete.
I finished my circuits last Friday and next exercise will be steep turns, followed by practice forced landings, precautionary landings and a few bits before moving on to navigation.
I must say I cant wait to leave the circuit and climb above 1000', it seems like an age since I done anything but fly around in circles (or rectangles)!

[ChickenHouse]

RTFM ... EASA Part-FCL is minimum 45 hours and there is a nice syllabus listed in the regulations. I know quite some finishing after 45-50 hours, but most need about around 60 hours.

And -> that will give you only the license to continue learning on your own, no less no more.

[3 Point]

For goodness sake stranger, don't come on here asking a bunch of unknown people to advise you on the progress and future direction of your flying training. How are we supposed to know anything about your progress? Ask your instructor, that's his job and it's what you're paying him to do!

I'll refrain from making any comment in relation to your request; I say again, ask your instructor!!

3 point

[PURPLE PITOT]

First solo is something you will remember for the rest of your life.Might even define it. I remember both. Military and civilian. I was not ready for either. I made sure my students were.

[worldpilot]

3 Point is making a point here.

However though, the human factor pose a significant threat in aviation and due to lack of the right perspectives in aviation training, aspirants tend to seek insights elsewhere to gain some understanding on how to better address the challenges of attaining a pilot qualification.

There are rogue instructors out there who are entrusted by ATOs to conduct flight training and really have no clue about how to constructively engage flight training aspirants and provide the appropriate fundamentals to guide the path to success. That really makes things really, really difficult.

SO, it is not a surprise to see individuals surface here in this forum to ask common sense questions. The discrepancies in the resulting answers to the questions asked does also pose a challenge.

Anyway, it is better for the aspirants to get some reflections from this forum than remain in the dark with their rogue instructors.

WP

[AndrewMcD]

I assume the instructor meant 4-5 more hours on top of the 5 you've already logged?

I don't know where in the world you are doing your PPL but in the UK the syllabus is pretty tightly tied down and detailed in several books your FI can recommend (for example this one, which I'm using). That will show you what exercises you will be doing and the probable sequence.

8-9 hours to a solo is pretty quick and I suspect pretty rare for a new pilot these days when things are so tightly controlled. I'm at much the same stage (circuits prepping for 1st solo) after 11 hours and we have cracked through the lessons at a decent pace. You need to cover trial lesson, straight and level in the cruise, slow flying, climbing (full power and cruise), descending (glide, cruise and emergency), level turns, climbing and descending turns, stall recovery (fully developed and incipient both with flaps and banked) as well as take off, landing, the various checks and managing the radio. All done consistently safely. That's a lot to cram into 9 hours! It's also not something you'll get from reading a book.

I'm interested by your comment about a simulator - I didn't think they were used much in PPL training, would be interested in hearing more