Light Aircraft Down - Buckingham
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I would speculate that the reason for more accidents is likely to stem from a the extra regulatory burden and the extra expense that follows that have reduced the hours that people are flying.
One should remember that the UK CAA supervised a system that resulted in a world class safety system that resulted in one of the worlds lowest accident rates.
We now have a system were EU states that had appalling accident rates have influence over regulation, couple that with the European love of over regulation and you have a safety system that has a prime objective of keeping the administrators of that system employed....... Not of keeping GA safe.
One should remember that the UK CAA supervised a system that resulted in a world class safety system that resulted in one of the worlds lowest accident rates.
We now have a system were EU states that had appalling accident rates have influence over regulation, couple that with the European love of over regulation and you have a safety system that has a prime objective of keeping the administrators of that system employed....... Not of keeping GA safe.
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Well, it's one up on those pilots who have been killed because they got on the radio with a 'Mayday' instead of flying the aeroplane. It may be an old mantra but it's no less true for that; aviate, navigate, communicate, in that order.
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I've never before heard of someone doing this. It seems almost impossible that a qualified pilot would get hold of his phone rather than keep hold of the controls and keep trying to save the situation.
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Well, there are at least two possibilities.
1) Completely untrue - he never texted anything at all. Let's face it, this is a newspaper report we're talking about...
2) He did text - in which case he may have done it before deliberately having an 'accident'...
I find it difficult to accept that anyone would be able to send a text in those circumstances, nor even want to. It'd surely be the last thing on anyones mind...
1) Completely untrue - he never texted anything at all. Let's face it, this is a newspaper report we're talking about...
2) He did text - in which case he may have done it before deliberately having an 'accident'...
I find it difficult to accept that anyone would be able to send a text in those circumstances, nor even want to. It'd surely be the last thing on anyones mind...
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2) He did text - in which case he may have done it before deliberately having an 'accident'...
The question is why would he want to put himself in that position - unless there are other revelations yet to be revealed?!?!
Sad in any event.
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2) He did text - in which case he may have done it before deliberately having an 'accident'...
... is (probably) the correct answer?
2) He did text - in which case he may have done it before deliberately having an 'accident'...
... is (probably) the correct answer?
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I actually used to know this chap, many years ago, when he turned up on the Manchester scene. He made enquiries about learning to fly on a twin, buying a Citation and building an airstrip. This from a lad who looked about 15 years old. A little while later he did start an airstrip next to the M6 near Holmes Chapel - you can still see the remains of the small Tarmac touchdown zones he put in.
Later I followed the "Arrows" fraud trial with amazement as some of it was centred around Altrincham where I lived.
Have to say I'm very sorry he lost his life this way - I'm guessing there will be some interesting revelations to come...
Later I followed the "Arrows" fraud trial with amazement as some of it was centred around Altrincham where I lived.
Have to say I'm very sorry he lost his life this way - I'm guessing there will be some interesting revelations to come...
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I actually used to know this chap, many years ago, when he turned up on the Manchester scene. He made enquiries about learning to fly on a twin, buying a Citation and building an airstrip. This from a lad who looked about 15 years old. A little while later he did start an airstrip next to the M6 near Holmes Chapel - you can still see the remains of the small Tarmac touchdown zones he put in.
Later I followed the "Arrows" fraud trial with amazement as some of it was centred around Altrincham where I lived.
Later I followed the "Arrows" fraud trial with amazement as some of it was centred around Altrincham where I lived.
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I actually used to know this chap, many years ago, when he turned up on the Manchester scene. He made enquiries about learning to fly on a twin, buying a Citation and building an airstrip. This from a lad who looked about 15 years old. A little while later he did start an airstrip next to the M6 near Holmes Chapel - you can still see the remains of the small Tarmac touchdown zones he put in.
Later I followed the "Arrows" fraud trial with amazement as some of it was centred around Altrincham where I lived.
Have to say I'm very sorry he lost his life this way - I'm guessing there will be some interesting revelations to come...
Later I followed the "Arrows" fraud trial with amazement as some of it was centred around Altrincham where I lived.
Have to say I'm very sorry he lost his life this way - I'm guessing there will be some interesting revelations to come...
Can you see the airstrip remains on Google Earth? I've had a quick browse around the M6 near Holmes Chapel but can't find anything obvious.