Awaiting issue of PPL(A)

[BackPacker]

Does that mean that the examiner has to sign it on behalf of / as the instructor? Or does the student get the authorisation before they leave home base?

From a practical point of view, I would imagine that the instructor signs the authorization for both flights (to and from the examiner airfield) as one document. I mean, you don't sign/carry three separate forms for the three legs of the QXC, do you? But as said, I would add the condition (and put it in writing) that the student phones the instructor before flying home.

And I would insist that the student somehow takes time to unwind after the exam. Have lunch, go for a walk, read a newspaper, whatever. But spend at least an hour away from the aircraft and from the whole flying environment in general, to let the adrenaline wear off.

[Steve6443]

From a practical point of view, I would imagine that the instructor signs the authorization for both flights (to and from the examiner airfield) as one document. I mean, you don't sign/carry three separate forms for the three legs of the QXC, do you? But as said, I would add the condition (and put it in writing) that the student phones the instructor before flying home.

In my case, I had to fly to an airfield around 12 minutes away, meet the examiner there, carry out my skills test, drop off the examiner and then return to my home base. I had three PLOGs, one for the flight there, duly signed by my instructor, one for the skills test and one for the return flight, again signed by the instructor and issued just in case I failed the test. I passed, returned to my home base.

A few weeks later there was an article in a GA mag about the legal and insurance ramifications of PPLs flying back from their skills test, having passed their exams but without actually possessing the licence. The human factors side of it wasn't mentioned, it focussed purely on the legal and insurance side. Since then, school's rules state that the instructor has to fly with his student to the examiner or the examiner has to come with the student....

[Mach Jump]

...Since then, school's rules state that the instructor has to fly with his student to the examiner or the examiner has to come with the student....

Sounds like the best policy to me, for all the reasons stated above.


MJ

[TheChitterneFlyer]

I had to fly to an airfield around 12 minutes away, meet the examiner there, carry out my skills test

Twelve whole minutes away! Why could the examiner not have come to you?

[Steve6443]

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I had to fly to an airfield around 12 minutes away, meet the examiner there, carry out my skills test

Twelve whole minutes away! Why could the examiner not have come to you?

Twelve minutes for me to fly to him as the crow flies or an hour for him to drive to me and then an hour back. Not everyone owns their own aircraft, do they........

[cheechm]

In the States, the night after passing my JAR PPL I did solo night circuits. All that I needed from the instructor was their authorisation.

[localflighteast]

Hmmm here in the great white north, once the person responsible at the flight school is happy that youve passed all your exams , done the ground school etc they send off your application to transport Canada.
In the meantime they sign the back of your student permit and that counts as your License until TC get round to sending you your booklet.

Seems sensible to me

[PPLvirgin]

To surgeon35

Well done mate.

I passed my PPL in March and recieved my licence this week.

This site is great to view and learn from a lot of people who are always willing to give advice, as you can tell from this thread it can go a bit awry but generally its always worth checking in on this site or posting a question as you tend to get very good advice.

Further more - it does open your eyes, whilst having passed my test, not one person including my examinor, local CFI and FI's told me stuff that has become very prudent, ie flying with a pssenger etc...

the mind boggles sometimes at the amount of info one is required to take in, once again to pen pushing regulations which we think are designed to keep us safe, but it seems to me also a way of fleecing us of our hard earned money and giving a reason to have a big organisation that like to wield power over us GA flyers & Co

Well done mate on PPL, happy flying!!!

[RTN11]

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I had to fly to an airfield around 12 minutes away, meet the examiner there, carry out my skills test

Twelve whole minutes away! Why could the examiner not have come to you?

Twelve minutes for me to fly to him as the crow flies or an hour for him to drive to me and then an hour back. Not everyone owns their own aircraft, do they........

It should really be the examiner who travels though, it certainly is in the UK. If they're that fussed they invoice you for it, but it would still be cheaper than 24 mins flying time.

Sending students solo between exam pass and paperwork issue is a bit of a legal grey area, but it really shouldn't be. The candidate has just passed his test, likely at the peak of their currency and knowledge. Is the best thing for them really to sit about not flying for 4-6 weeks waiting on a bit of paper, after which they are perfectly entitled to take 3 other souls with them into the air. It's far better if they are able to keep their newly learnt skills fresh and current, under the supervision of an instructor and still solo, and the insurance companies really need to get on board with this.