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So what could I answer.
On a more serious note, you could have broken out your charts and shown her the route it was flying and why it was low risk.
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70 killed or seriously injured on the roads a day.
70 million people in the country, your daily odds are a million to one against.
Seven a day killed, forty million movements. Assuming that a couple die of heart attacks and strokes at the wheel then it is five in forty million, twice as likely as winning the lottery jackpot. As you live on average for only 27,000 days, a million to one shot is pretty insignificant.
A million people die a year. 1900 on the roads. <1 in 500 over a lifetime.
Get a grip. The roads have never been safer and the only thing we could do to make them more so is to raise speed limits.
There are a million things that can kill you and only one will. Live dangerously.
70 million people in the country, your daily odds are a million to one against.
Seven a day killed, forty million movements. Assuming that a couple die of heart attacks and strokes at the wheel then it is five in forty million, twice as likely as winning the lottery jackpot. As you live on average for only 27,000 days, a million to one shot is pretty insignificant.
A million people die a year. 1900 on the roads. <1 in 500 over a lifetime.
Get a grip. The roads have never been safer and the only thing we could do to make them more so is to raise speed limits.
There are a million things that can kill you and only one will. Live dangerously.
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Risk: surely this is one of the reasons we do it. The risk bit is the icing on the cake. It just wouldn't be the same without it.
My complainant didn't care about the risk, just the noise. And yes, I did once take him up.
My complainant didn't care about the risk, just the noise. And yes, I did once take him up.
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My complainant didn't care about the risk, just the noise.
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Those 1900 deaths are more significant than they appear, because they typically affect younger people in the prime of their lives.
For an A&E doctor, a typical 'life saved' would be an elderly person with pneumonia, or perhaps heart failure. If we treat them (as we almost always do) then we're typically buying them a few months of life before the next admission. By and large such patients have life expectancies of months or a few years.
By contrast, A 20 year old man in a road traffic accident may have 60 years cut off his life expectancy.
Secondly, if he survives he may well have a head injury. These can be utterly devastating - nice young lads of previous good character get incarcerated in rehabilitation centres for years on end, filled with antidepressants. They are often disinhibited, sexually and otherwise, start groping the nurses and hurling abuse at one and all; they eventually get let out, at which point their marriages collapse (if married) and they may well be unable to hold down a job...
It's not that bad for everyone of course but it's a depressingly common scenario. Teens and twenty-somethings are more likely to die on the roads than for any other reason.
For an A&E doctor, a typical 'life saved' would be an elderly person with pneumonia, or perhaps heart failure. If we treat them (as we almost always do) then we're typically buying them a few months of life before the next admission. By and large such patients have life expectancies of months or a few years.
By contrast, A 20 year old man in a road traffic accident may have 60 years cut off his life expectancy.
Secondly, if he survives he may well have a head injury. These can be utterly devastating - nice young lads of previous good character get incarcerated in rehabilitation centres for years on end, filled with antidepressants. They are often disinhibited, sexually and otherwise, start groping the nurses and hurling abuse at one and all; they eventually get let out, at which point their marriages collapse (if married) and they may well be unable to hold down a job...
It's not that bad for everyone of course but it's a depressingly common scenario. Teens and twenty-somethings are more likely to die on the roads than for any other reason.
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We had four injury accidents to members of our gliding club last year; three were riding motorcycles, one was in a car - the car that hit him had a drunk for a driver.
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There are a million things that shouldn't be 'allowed' before GA gets a spotlight shone on it.
'Women In Business' clubs.
Fat women in leggings.
Microwaveable hamburgers.
Snooker on TV.
White Audis.
Over-staffed and under-worked public sector departments.
Public footpaths.
Car driving for 70 year olds without a biennial check.
Pudding menus with photographs.
And the other 999,991 I can't be @rsed to list.
'Women In Business' clubs.
Fat women in leggings.
Microwaveable hamburgers.
Snooker on TV.
White Audis.
Over-staffed and under-worked public sector departments.
Public footpaths.
Car driving for 70 year olds without a biennial check.
Pudding menus with photographs.
And the other 999,991 I can't be @rsed to list.
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One day you will be 70 & remarks like that will piss you off as much as they piss me off. Who the hell gave anyone the right to dictate an age limit for anything?
Excuse me but I've heard it before & it's not bloody funny even when you think it is
Edit: Here's a thought, what about banning car driving for under 30s, that would keep a few out of A&E save the rest of us a few bob.
Excuse me but I've heard it before & it's not bloody funny even when you think it is
Edit: Here's a thought, what about banning car driving for under 30s, that would keep a few out of A&E save the rest of us a few bob.
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And the other 999,991 I can't be @rsed to list
Oven chips
to go with the microwave hamburgers.
what about banning car driving for under 30s
It's like most crimes are committed by kids, who grow out of it by the age of around 26. So, you say, why not just lock up all boys and let them out when they get to 26?
The reason this doesn't work is that it's mostly getting involved with some girl that turns them, at her insistence, sensible, and if they're locked up they aren't going to meet the girl.
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One day you will be 70 & remarks like that will piss you off as much as they piss me off. Who the hell gave anyone the right to dictate an age limit for anything?
Excuse me but I've heard it before & it's not bloody funny even when you think it is
Edit: Here's a thought, what about banning car driving for under 30s, that would keep a few out of A&E save the rest of us a few bob.
Excuse me but I've heard it before & it's not bloody funny even when you think it is
Edit: Here's a thought, what about banning car driving for under 30s, that would keep a few out of A&E save the rest of us a few bob.
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Banning under 30s till they grow out of stupidity is no worse than banning anything else for illogical reasons.
Ageist remarks get up my nose, & if I want to get grumpy about it I have as much right to a stupid opinion as anyone.
I could list some of mine but I'd get banned
Accepted. And statistics can be mutilated to suit whatever purpose the authorities want.
I wonder if someone could survey a number of A&Es to determine how many beds are occupied by RTA cases & their ages, (trying to be serious)
I remember being in Penzance General in 59 with a motorcycle gear lever embedded in my foot and finding 50% of the ward filled with motorcycle accidents of similar ages, 18--25.
Ageist remarks get up my nose, & if I want to get grumpy about it I have as much right to a stupid opinion as anyone.
I could list some of mine but I'd get banned
Sorry. Didn't mean to offend. I was just working on national statistics,
I wonder if someone could survey a number of A&Es to determine how many beds are occupied by RTA cases & their ages, (trying to be serious)
I remember being in Penzance General in 59 with a motorcycle gear lever embedded in my foot and finding 50% of the ward filled with motorcycle accidents of similar ages, 18--25.
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There is data out there - e.g.
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...sults-2011.pdf
or
Transport Accidents and Casualties: UK National Statistics Publication Hub
In addition to statistics collected by the NHS - which I imagine will be publicly available if you google hard enough.
There aren't many acute wards full of motorcyclists any more, though there is still a steady stream of people coming in with life-changing injuries. There are rehab centres for head injuries where most of the clientele have been injured on the roads. Over the past few weeks I've had three patients coming in for other causes (e.g. attempted suicide) who have either been unemployable or had to downgrade their careers due to the aftermath of head injuries sustained during road accidents.
The roads have gotten a lot safer since '59, but people are now surviving collisions that would previously have been fatal, so it's swings and roundabouts as to whether you see more of them in hospital. However, the majority of patients coming into A&E and staying in are likely to be very elderly folk with multiple medical problems, who would never have lived nearly as long in 1959 and who, as Britain ages, are accounting for an ever increasing proportion of the NHS workload.
That's not meant to be a gripe - it's great that people are living longer and often staying active nearly until the end of their lives. Just a statement of fact - there aren't any wards of young motorcyclists any more, not because there aren't any young motorcyclists with gear levers impaled in their feet, but because they are now sharing them with elderly ladies and gentlemen who've broken their hips.
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...sults-2011.pdf
or
Transport Accidents and Casualties: UK National Statistics Publication Hub
In addition to statistics collected by the NHS - which I imagine will be publicly available if you google hard enough.
There aren't many acute wards full of motorcyclists any more, though there is still a steady stream of people coming in with life-changing injuries. There are rehab centres for head injuries where most of the clientele have been injured on the roads. Over the past few weeks I've had three patients coming in for other causes (e.g. attempted suicide) who have either been unemployable or had to downgrade their careers due to the aftermath of head injuries sustained during road accidents.
The roads have gotten a lot safer since '59, but people are now surviving collisions that would previously have been fatal, so it's swings and roundabouts as to whether you see more of them in hospital. However, the majority of patients coming into A&E and staying in are likely to be very elderly folk with multiple medical problems, who would never have lived nearly as long in 1959 and who, as Britain ages, are accounting for an ever increasing proportion of the NHS workload.
That's not meant to be a gripe - it's great that people are living longer and often staying active nearly until the end of their lives. Just a statement of fact - there aren't any wards of young motorcyclists any more, not because there aren't any young motorcyclists with gear levers impaled in their feet, but because they are now sharing them with elderly ladies and gentlemen who've broken their hips.
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Seriously risky behavior in middle age is a public service. The optimum age is in your 50s, the age range where a lot of people do some flying. That's when you've done a lot of useful work, but before you start hanging out in hospitals so much.
Risky behavior in your 50s that leads to terminal events versus injury (as does flying) is the best kind. That Swiss guy who flies on jet powered bat wings has public service wired, or would if it wasn't for his skill.
My goal is to never to make a vehicle insurance claim (so far so good) then expire rapidly and dramatically, maximizing my contribution relative to cost. I've been working on it with very fast motorcycles (currently own 8) and airplanes (only 2) for about 40 years, since age 10 actually, but have still to figure out the cost saving end game. In time, all will be revealed and the new wife will get the cash.
Screw the statisticians, bureaucrats and worry warts, do it your way and give them the finger(s) they so richly deserve. Their plan is not mine, and I'm happy to consider them self important circle-jerk detritus.
Risky behavior in your 50s that leads to terminal events versus injury (as does flying) is the best kind. That Swiss guy who flies on jet powered bat wings has public service wired, or would if it wasn't for his skill.
My goal is to never to make a vehicle insurance claim (so far so good) then expire rapidly and dramatically, maximizing my contribution relative to cost. I've been working on it with very fast motorcycles (currently own 8) and airplanes (only 2) for about 40 years, since age 10 actually, but have still to figure out the cost saving end game. In time, all will be revealed and the new wife will get the cash.
Screw the statisticians, bureaucrats and worry warts, do it your way and give them the finger(s) they so richly deserve. Their plan is not mine, and I'm happy to consider them self important circle-jerk detritus.
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There are rehab centres for head injuries
She said she never really succeeded in getting the motorcyclists to speak again to conversational standards.
I stopped driving a bike.
