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Old 19th May 2013, 15:32
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Plane crash Caernarfon

BBC News - Light aircraft crash at Caernarfon injures two people with a third trapped

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Old 19th May 2013, 15:56
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G-ATRR, a PA28 from a Blackpool flying club. Very sad.
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Old 19th May 2013, 16:51
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Sadly updated to one dead.
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Old 19th May 2013, 17:01
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The fire service said it had 32 crew members and three officers at scene, along with eight appliances.
Why?

In the last 24 hrs, there have been at least 3 serious road accidents. But you don't see many of those reported in the national media.

The BBC does like its weird aeronautical lexicon of 'planes flipping', 'tail spins' and no doubt 'power dives'. Meaningless garbage churned out by third rate journos.

Nevertheless, very sad news.....

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Old 19th May 2013, 17:47
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The BBC report I read said the aircraft had "fewer than eight seats".

What a strange thing to say.
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Old 19th May 2013, 17:54
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just noticed the plane is 46 yrs old, is that old?
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Old 19th May 2013, 18:33
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Originally Posted by spooky3 View Post
just noticed the plane is 46 yrs old, is that old?
Not really....
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Old 19th May 2013, 18:47
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ok just thought it sounded rather old for a hire plane
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Old 19th May 2013, 18:48
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Very sad, but why do the fire service seem to over react in these situations, if it was in a built up area you could justify 8 appliances.
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Old 19th May 2013, 19:09
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just noticed the plane is 46 yrs old, is that old?
Not really. I've logged quite a few hours in that aircraft and while the "oldness" shows through in the ergonomic nightmare that is the instrument panel, it really did fly beautifully.

Very sad news indeed.

To those criticising the fire service response, consider that their initial call might have contained no more information than "there has been a plane crash". I'd rather they send half the fleet just in case rather than spend valuable time trying to find out how many seats it has.
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Old 19th May 2013, 19:23
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tragic for those involved and friends and family, however if this had happened while driving home from the airfield it would hardly be covered by the press.....

I had actually looked at this aircraft on the flybpl.com website before I saw the accident on ASN

I have emailed a few different flying schools for prices to do my NPPL(M) to SSEA conversion today and doing a little research on their fleets. I would not have been happy learning in a 50+ year old aircraft which had already logged 16894 flying hours as of 31/12/2011, I would prefer to fly something a little less ancient and pay more...

I hate when people speculate as to the cause of a crash before any investigation has even begun, I am aware the age of the aircraft may not have been a factor in this accident.
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Old 19th May 2013, 20:17
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Very sad indeed. Makes you realise 'but for the grace of God'.

Does anyone know what the weather was and what runway they were using ?

I hope it was nothing to do with them bloody big wind turbines.
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Old 19th May 2013, 20:19
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One dead, two hurt in light aircraft crash

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Old 19th May 2013, 20:41
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Yeah i was thinking about those turbines too.

Very sad. Makes you think...
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Old 19th May 2013, 20:48
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Another one of Robert Mergatroyds aircraft...

He has some bad luck that fella.....
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G-BBBK Accident?

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Does anyone know what the weather was and what runway they were using ?
I think they were using 26 today but I may be wrong. If they were using 26 then the undershoot is the caravan park and the overshoot is the road/beach.
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Old 19th May 2013, 22:19
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With regards to the fire service attendance....

When called by the airfield or member of public the initial details will be limited due to the speed we need to dispatch the appliances. Crews get used very quickly at any incident. Add to that aviation fuel, potential close proximity of other risks etc. Its a bit more involved than a RTC or car crash.

Trust me the last thing to be wording about is how many appliances were mobilised!

RIP and thoughts with the injured.
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Old 19th May 2013, 22:19
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I would not have been happy learning in a 50+ year old aircraft which had already logged 16894 flying hours as of 31/12/2011, I would prefer to fly something a little less ancient and pay more...
The accident aircraft will have been maintained to the highest possible standard. The age really is meaningless. There have been plenty of accidents in brand new machines!

I hate when people speculate as to the cause of a crash before any investigation has even begun, I am aware the age of the aircraft may not have been a factor in this accident.
I'd be astonished if the age of the aircraft turns out to have had any bearing on this accident.
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Old 19th May 2013, 22:45
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Looks like runway 26

Looks like runway 26 to me, the signs say that on the pics, I landed there in November and the caravan site, high trees and telegraph poles right at the end of the runway are a surprise, 26 has a displaced threshold due to this. It looks like the plane is sat just inside the airfield boundary on 26, wonder if it caught the trees?
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