Stall landing/Slow landing

[Piper.Classique]

just like food has become so refined as to be less nutritious, flying has become so automated as to be less organic

Fraid so. If I'm not getting in anyone else's way, then I will always do a glide approach in the cub, with or without a sideslip, according to my mood at the time. Once had a controller comment that I was high on final, over the radio. I reckoned that was my business, but made a point of touching down at the very start of the runway, no sideslip required. Of course I then had to taxi the best part of a mile to the exit......

What really worries me about many pilots of light aircraft is that they try to fly as if they are in a heavy. I am trying to ban the phrase "rotate speed" at our club. So many people fly so little that every other flight is a currency check, and have no feel for the aircraft. (trimmed or not, usually the latter) Trouble is feel comes with experience and currency and so we rely on the numbers instead.

But I have the luxury of my own aircraft and no pressure to conform, or to fly in conditions that are unsuitable for the aircraft or incompatible with flying for fun.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

So many people fly so little that every other flight is a currency check, and have no feel for the aircraft. (trimmed or not, usually the latter) Trouble is feel comes with experience and currency and so we rely on the numbers instead.

Exactly:

It is the dumming down of flight training to the point that when the numbers are not there they crash. ( Such as airspeed indicator failure. )

[Pace]

Chuck

It is the dumming down of flight training to the point that when the numbers are not there they crash. ( Such as airspeed indicator failure. )

That is a good training regime to cover up the the AI and get a pilot to fly a circuit by power setting and feel.
Also to land clean and with full flap at different speeds as well as steep and flat approaches.
A PA28 can be landed at 60 kts as well as 100 kts albeit your stopping distance will be far longer.
You can flare at 20 feet 10 feet or 2 feet

Pace

[piperboy84]

Power comes off and flaps come up as soon as you touch the ground...

I'm a bit hesitant to lean down and drop the flaps right after landing, in case I veer too far of centerline or put myself closer to a groundloop, I considered buying one of those flap handle extensions
EZ Flap

Has anyone tried one?

[Pace]

Power comes off and flaps come up as soon as you touch the ground..

PiperBoy

There is an argument that you touch nothing till clear of the runway!
With the Citations I fly touchdown on landing with full flaps makes the aircraft quite tail light and twitchy.

I tend to raise the flap to takeoff setting after touchdown which gets a disapproving look from my co

I feel its much smoother and more precise under braking with takeoff and app setting so what the heck

Pace

[JSeward]

Is anyone here a Cirrus pilot? If so when landing do you gradually pull back until the stops/stall like a Cessna or does this bring risk of a tailstrike?

[ArcticChiller]

Cirrus SR20 - Full stall landings FPV Part 1 - CirrusWorld

Seems to be working in a Cirrus.

[mary meagher]

Couple of thoughts: nobody has mentioned crosswinds....

Interesting to think of the Space Shuttle as a stubby winged glider...

And if the engine quits on your aircraft, having chosen the best place to put it, endeavour to touch down as slowly as possible, on the top of the crop/trees/warehouse or parking lot.

Famous landing happened in a gliding club up North of the border.....the girlfriend in the front, the son of the owner as PIC; running a bit short of height on the down-wind, decided to elevate the turbo and fire up the engine.

Which declined to run. They landed in the club car park, on top of several cars, one of which contained an elderly couple enjoying a snack while watching the gliding. They were shocked and surprised, the girlfriend was not impressed, and the pilot suffered bruising when his father was informed.....

[flyingtool]

I fly my 172 low on approach, no flap, power off 70 knots back to 65 it's then about 15 feet I hold it level, letting airspeed wash off and when I feel it start to sink I slowly pull back. Smooth every time. If however I use flap il keep the tiniest amount of power on as if I don't I find with my Cessna (L model) and 40 degree of flap it just falls out of the sky. Good if you're high on approach though. Take full flap and nose it down. I've had it nose down 10 degrees and full flap and lost airspeed!!