Rough reception at Popham!
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How about getting rid of the TLA's and just name it Pophams Airfield Information Service.
To be honest some form of compentcy check would be a good thing.
And as the digital recording of the frequency is relatively cheap and easy these days maybe htat would also be the way forward.
And BTW I also think that the pilot side of things need changed as well so that there is some form of panel which un acceptable behaviour can be forward to.
Don't forget the CAA read these pages and by complaining about levels of service, contributors may trigger action by the CAA, either to require some sort of competency check for A/G Operators
And as the digital recording of the frequency is relatively cheap and easy these days maybe htat would also be the way forward.
And BTW I also think that the pilot side of things need changed as well so that there is some form of panel which un acceptable behaviour can be forward to.
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And BTW I also think that the pilot side of things need changed as well so that there is some form of panel which un acceptable behaviour can be forward to.
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From: South of England
chevvron:
The UK adopts the ICAO definition of ATS and does not include AGCS as an Air Traffic Service. The operator should use precise terminology and not this regrettable slang.
2 s
I would suggest that to clear up any confusion, the airfield operator should change any mention of 'ATC' to read 'ATS', the reason being that AGCS is a type of Air Traffic Service along with ATC and FIS.
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So. This guy turned onto final ahead of a Pietenpol that was too far out to be inconvenienced, endangered or hindered in any way?
As I read it, the Pietenpol trundled on down final and landed on a clear runway. No eggs broken. Hardly worth five or six pages.
As I read it, the Pietenpol trundled on down final and landed on a clear runway. No eggs broken. Hardly worth five or six pages.
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From: On the wireless...
Originally Posted by chevvron
AGCS is a type of Air Traffic Service along with ATC and FIS
Originally Posted by CAP452
Air Ground Communications Service (AGCS) is a service provided to pilots at specific UK at aerodromes. However, it is not viewed by the UK as an Air Traffic Service because it does not include an alerting service as part of its content.
So AGCS is not ATC nor ATS so why not call it 'AGCS'? What could be simpler? Why muddy the 'already-muddied' waters even further?
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From: 18nm NE grice 28ft up
I must say I am amazed at the casual response OscarZulu has offered the forum after his initial lambasting of Popham Radio.
If OscarZulu had simply reported. "Have AC on final in sight." it would have allowed CT to relax.
Then again of he had tried again to get a response to his initial call. Or if he had joined overhead. You get the drift.
Some of the airmanship I have witnessed as an AG operator has been absolutely shocking. Two VERY near mid air collisions has made me nervous of non standard joins. Probably CT feels the same.
D.O.
over a scratchy radio above a screening 2-stroke,
Then again of he had tried again to get a response to his initial call. Or if he had joined overhead. You get the drift.
Some of the airmanship I have witnessed as an AG operator has been absolutely shocking. Two VERY near mid air collisions has made me nervous of non standard joins. Probably CT feels the same.
D.O.
