Exercise Joint Warrior = Large area Notam for today 4th October
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Worth remembering that the majority of these NOTAMs are Advisorary and not Avoids and the military (and any other significant airspace user for that matter) is duty bound to advise on significant air activity. Better to be aware of possible activity than get a fast jet up your backside surely?
The notams are informative in that you know there are excercises going on, but not usually practical to avoid the area because they are so big. It would be good to know the military have something equivalent to the civilian TCAS...
Although the one I wonder about more than the occasional exercise notam, is the HRA. Does the usage really justify the size and daily active, or could it be smaller sections activated by notam, or have VFR corridors through it available to light aircraft.
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RAF don't work weekends.
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Flying gliders out of Aboyne all last week. Saw a few Tornados now and then. We requested the 'wave box' be opened when the wave got going (FL195 - FL240) and had no problems.
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The only current RAF FJ that will see your squawk on TCAS is the Hawk T2. The Typhoon will have a Radar to assist (the GR4 may be able to display A-A contacts but you'd best ask someone who flies it).
I see what people are saying about the large area NOTAMs but then there are civilian equivalents that are equally vague. Cross country gliding competitions spring to mind. They cover vast swathes of the countryside but in reality hardly constitute swarms of gliders from surface to infinity at all hours of the day.
What this thread has highlighted to me is how certain members of the civilian fraternity (and this works both ways before anyone jumps down my throat) don't fully understand what the military is up to and why we do what we do. Open days hosted by military units or local airfields are a great way to enlighten members of the aviation fraternity. Although at one I attended I was not overly impressed with the finger pointing attitude of some PPL types who were convinced we were all out to kill them!
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I see what people are saying about the large area NOTAMs but then there are civilian equivalents that are equally vague. Cross country gliding competitions spring to mind. They cover vast swathes of the countryside but in reality hardly constitute swarms of gliders from surface to infinity at all hours of the day.
What this thread has highlighted to me is how certain members of the civilian fraternity (and this works both ways before anyone jumps down my throat) don't fully understand what the military is up to and why we do what we do. Open days hosted by military units or local airfields are a great way to enlighten members of the aviation fraternity. Although at one I attended I was not overly impressed with the finger pointing attitude of some PPL types who were convinced we were all out to kill them!
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but then there are civilian equivalents that are equally vague. Cross country gliding competitions spring to mind. They cover vast swathes of the countryside but in reality hardly constitute swarms of gliders from surface to infinity at all hours of the day.
(As a pensioner, flying for pleasure, with time on my hands, I didn't fly in the good weather earlier this week, due to the assorted activities. For me it was no big deal to go walking instead. )
