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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 21:19
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Not really to be honest.

The B2's I have had dealings with apart from the odd one or two have always had a tendency to lie through thier teeth to get the aircraft out the door.

Most arn't truely independant and are tied to a service center for a brand.

And to be honest the service that I have seen with GA avionics in my neck of the woods is to be quite honest shocking. With usually more problems occuring after being tinkered with than before.

I would listen to an A&P with a pilots license but would always go and check with other pilots/owners before going with an avionics shop recommendation.

Don't worry its pretty common with instrumentation as a whole, boats are the same, and also A/D data acquisition in industry.
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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 21:25
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I am sorry to have to ask this of you but Please Do not use my my innocent enquiry for help to vent your spleen on others. Thank you TP
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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 21:28
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In case any of the avionics guys see this I have to say that. Nigel, Clive and Brian have always given me a good deal and value for money. Thank you guys. I'll be over to see you with Beefy soon. RB
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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 21:38
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I was just answering someone's question, no spleen venting inprogress.
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 06:40
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Why not buy a working second hand king or what ever it was and just plug it in
the tray no big bills works immediately
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Md 600 Driver. That is an excellent idea and certainly the cheapest option. Thanks. TP
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 08:30
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Turnip

I would second MD600 Driver. You can easy get overhauled units from the USA which match the ones that were in there and just slide them in.

Otherwise your logic escapes me. Why buy an aircraft (I guess from an auction of the Bonus aircraft) which you should have paid bu##er all for, pay some avionics numpty to rip you off with all sorts of extras and things they didn't see when they quoted, and then end up with a 150 which is STILL worth bu##er all.

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Old 24th Sep 2012, 08:41
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Leave him alone. Its his baby.

Just like classic cars and boats logic doesn't come into.

If the additions provide an increase in enjoyment and experience of flying the machine and are considered "worth it" to the owner I see no problem investing even if its not going to recuperate the value. He can always transfer them to another plane later if he gets another one. This mode S stuff and 8.33 won't go away.

If it was a buisness buy then I would take a different few but to a private owner its not a problem.

Hell I have a 350 quid hand crafted model of an aircraft I used to fly sitting in my house. Value on ebay 20 quid. For me worth every penny.
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 09:01
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As has been said it is Turnip Pilot’s toy to do with as he wishes. If he wants a quick fix and get it airborne then replacing the old radios will work, but it will be more expensive in the medium term. Regarding avionic engineers and light aircraft engineers in general – the industry does not have a good reputation but that does not mean all are bad. Like most things in aviation, it is what you know that will dictate what you pay. The ill-informed and his money are easily parted.

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Old 24th Sep 2012, 09:04
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Thanks Jock, I like your style and I like Edinburgh but I find Aberdeen where I believe you are to be a bit grey. I am over 60 and have given up a lot of things following a bad fall off a horse that rolled on me and nearly killed me two years ago.
I bought the old 150 out of nostalgia as I learnt to fly in one a lifetime ago. I have a Bonanza, a Baron and a massive RIB I hardly use, I have two horses I can't ride any more, I sold my Fireblade then had a Supercharged 420 HP Jag XKR that frightened the sh1t out of me so I sold it too, I have a wife that makes me do the washing up and I have a dog that won't bark so I thought a cheap 150 would complete my lifestyle package!
I didn't expect to start a war or be insulted when I asked about some cheap boxes for a cheap old banger.
G BIFY by the way is much loved by all sorts of people who have contacted me asking what my intentions are with the old girl. So I had better take good care of her for the next owner.
I'm off to prune the roses.
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 09:06
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Mad Jock.
I agree with your sentiments.
If I bought an aircraft to keep for many years, then I don't see any problem spending money to make it more suited to my use.
But (as mentioned earlier in the thread) with all the 100 series SIDs, high hours, ex-flying school, an odd choice of aircraft to pour money into when something with a 430 can be picked up for reasonable money. Certainly less than a 150 plus the cost of installing new Mode S, 430, etc.
Thats all.
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 09:29
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It wasn't a war far from it.

I suspect wigglieamps from his posts on here is an old school avionics engineer or trained under one, that can actually read a circuit diagram and takes pride in his work. Takes a snag as a challenge not as an interuption to drinking tea.

Unfortuantly the good guys are getting pulled down and tarnished by the other complete berks that are plying the same trade. I still hold out that in general my statement was true.

As said the mode S won't go away neither will the 8.33 and not having flipflops is a pain in the arse to be honest. But a 430 etc is just over kill if its your VFR buggy.

And a C150 is a perfect machine if you just want kick the tyres and get airborne to watch the sunset.

Its well worth getting some covers for it if your going to keep it outside and get new carpets for it afterward; after getting someone to scrub internals down with anti-fugal/bacterial wash. It will stop it smelling like a pub toilets.

Pilot DAR on here has had one for over twenty years and asures us all it is still as sweet smelling as the day he took it into his care.
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 12:25
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Originally Posted by Turnip Pilot
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I have a wife that makes me do the washing up
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Surely you can afford a washing up machine?
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Old 23rd Jul 2013, 23:22
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Turnip Pilot

Great to see G-BIFY is doing so well and looking great, I used to fuel, clean, de-ice, tie down etc and did my PPL training/1st solo in her when a teenager (in my 40's now, going grey) whilst working my very first job as a general dogs body at Phoenix Aviation, Cranfield back in the late 80's (Bonus were still based at leavesden).

I've always held a hope I could afford to buy her myself one day (bank manager laughing at that thought currently).

I hope you enjoy looking after her as much as I did, happy flapping.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 08:29
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Thumbs up GBIFY

GBIFY IS IN GREAT FORM AND JUST GOES ON GIVING pleasure to all who fly her. I had a superb flight From Bournemouth to Perranporth and back last week. I went down at FL 60 on top in the clear. Returning at 1,000 agl. The evening air was still and calm and it was a memorable flight in a great little machine. Mr Cessna got it just right with his high wing and wonderful controls. All so balanced and harmonised. She is a veritable joy. If you would like to take her for a trip just let me know. BIFY likes to go flying with her friends. :-)
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 11:18
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What avionics have you decided to fit ?
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Old 27th Jul 2013, 20:24
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Your description of your trip to Perranporth triggered a few happy memories of similar flights I had in BIFY
Thanks for your kind offer, I will defiantly be in touch with you in the future, cheers Turnip Pilot.
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Old 28th Jul 2013, 19:51
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I did my training at Perranporth and then flew BIFY when I moved to MK and flew from Cranfield. I am glad that BIFY is serving you well and the photos on facebook of her in her new livery look good too
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