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If you have any problems with the nose gear that needs a replacement that's the aircraft scrapped
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Why ?
Why is it a surprise to some of you that when the correct spin recovery action is initiated the roll rate increases ?
This should have been made crystal clear during your training !
This should have been made crystal clear during your training !
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It didn't surprise me. I was rather thankful when it did speed up.
And I would imagine that to pilots that have only spun Cessna 150/152's the tommy spin would be a bit of a shock what ever happens. Must admit thought the effect of "extra" fuel in the tanks caused me to hit the books again.
And I would imagine that to pilots that have only spun Cessna 150/152's the tommy spin would be a bit of a shock what ever happens. Must admit thought the effect of "extra" fuel in the tanks caused me to hit the books again.
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Operated a Tomy for about a year. Did lots of spins, a bit vicious if you've only spun 152's in the past and see why in the early days it had problems.
Returning to the field one day said to student, i will show you a spin from 4500 feet. So entered as normal, pattered through and the recovery. Then it went into the high rotation mode, very nose down.
Held it in spin recovery, but i tell you i didn't think it would recover.
Remembering the Slingsby spin problems i recalled reading the spin trials after some accident.
So i went back into pro spin and was a bit more positive on the next recovery go and it came out of the spin at 1500 feet.
Needles to say the Tomy had tarnished its books with me. Never spun it again.
I won't be sad when the last one is crushed up, it was a good attempt at a cheap trainer.
I always thought there was something wrong with the T tail design.
Try demonstrating primary effect of rudder and the nose pitches down, very strange, as though the tailplane is loosing some downforce.
Returning to the field one day said to student, i will show you a spin from 4500 feet. So entered as normal, pattered through and the recovery. Then it went into the high rotation mode, very nose down.
Held it in spin recovery, but i tell you i didn't think it would recover.
Remembering the Slingsby spin problems i recalled reading the spin trials after some accident.
So i went back into pro spin and was a bit more positive on the next recovery go and it came out of the spin at 1500 feet.
Needles to say the Tomy had tarnished its books with me. Never spun it again.
I won't be sad when the last one is crushed up, it was a good attempt at a cheap trainer.
I always thought there was something wrong with the T tail design.
Try demonstrating primary effect of rudder and the nose pitches down, very strange, as though the tailplane is loosing some downforce.
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There are only about 5 in the UK that have been allowed to spin for over ten years now.
If it doesn't have a full harness your not to spin them.
And how much fuel did you have onboard at the time?
If it doesn't have a full harness your not to spin them.
And how much fuel did you have onboard at the time?
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Yep that's a normal one with I might add some unnecessary boot of rudder to put it in.
If you have to much fuel in it rotates 2 twice as fast as that.
If you use the ailerons you can take the spin flatter which is why the nose was a bit high to begin with when spinning.
Boo after watching that I want to go spinning tommys again
If you have to much fuel in it rotates 2 twice as fast as that.
If you use the ailerons you can take the spin flatter which is why the nose was a bit high to begin with when spinning.
Boo after watching that I want to go spinning tommys again
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It looks like that youtube clip was taken over the Vale of Glamorgan in South Wales?
I did all my spinning in the Tommy there.
Not my favourite aeroplane. (Neither is the R22)
I did all my spinning in the Tommy there.
Not my favourite aeroplane. (Neither is the R22)
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That videos typical...not what i experienced by far.
Got to be over ten years since i spun one.
Doing a few tests lately and been suprised when candidates have been quite happy to initiate stalls at 2000 feet! having done a HASELL check.
Only explanation is that their instructors have been doing this due to some recent rubbish weather and low cloud.
All well and good i tell them till one day they have a go at stalling something they are not familiar with and it all goes pear shaped.
Got to be over ten years since i spun one.
Doing a few tests lately and been suprised when candidates have been quite happy to initiate stalls at 2000 feet! having done a HASELL check.
Only explanation is that their instructors have been doing this due to some recent rubbish weather and low cloud.
All well and good i tell them till one day they have a go at stalling something they are not familiar with and it all goes pear shaped.
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