Finding PPL hard
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PPL HARD
Thanks Pompey Paul,
What you say just about sums up my thoughts. Too much going on and me still looking at the instruments and wondering if all is correct or not.
I think like everyone has said I just need to relax and enjoy it all.
Will keep on going and try to chill out.
Thanks again
What you say just about sums up my thoughts. Too much going on and me still looking at the instruments and wondering if all is correct or not.
I think like everyone has said I just need to relax and enjoy it all.
Will keep on going and try to chill out.
Thanks again
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Thanks B2Vulcan,
I will keep on going. Did wonder about Barton though, spoke to a few people who are pilots and all of them said that if you can land at Barton you can land anywhere. Don't know if that is true. Could probably argue the other way that if you get too dispondent then that could have an adverse effect on everything else. I don't think it is the landing itself actually but the whole circuit and descent thing so like everyone has said maybe I am beating myself up too early
Good luck in your future flying and thanks for taking the time to comment
I will keep on going. Did wonder about Barton though, spoke to a few people who are pilots and all of them said that if you can land at Barton you can land anywhere. Don't know if that is true. Could probably argue the other way that if you get too dispondent then that could have an adverse effect on everything else. I don't think it is the landing itself actually but the whole circuit and descent thing so like everyone has said maybe I am beating myself up too early
Good luck in your future flying and thanks for taking the time to comment
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Yes. Instruments. I used to be a heavy simulator user, so it did cost me about 10hrs to get rid of a bad habit like staring on instruments instead of using horizon. My second problem was an insufficient attention to instructor's points. I was trying to teach myself and treated instructor just as a safety pilot. This didn't help either and even made things worse. I had a strong concern those days about my capabilities to fly real thing. When I sorted all these issues (thanks a lot to my CFI) then my flying become progressing rapidly and ultimately I managed to get my PPL.
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Hi,Scotsonlad,
As someone else has said too, i wasn't landing the aircraft after only four hours! I was still trying to get to grips with my head being bamboozled with information and thinking how the hell am I ever going to remember this?! It took 117 circuits and 27 hours for me to go solo. After 54 hours...and still, my landings are far from perfect..and my turn onto finals is still very often far too tight...
...so you're in a good club of student PPLs here.....and don't worry, its definately NOT just you!!
Good luck with everything - once you've mastered landing...then you have navexes and IF.....
As someone else has said too, i wasn't landing the aircraft after only four hours! I was still trying to get to grips with my head being bamboozled with information and thinking how the hell am I ever going to remember this?! It took 117 circuits and 27 hours for me to go solo. After 54 hours...and still, my landings are far from perfect..and my turn onto finals is still very often far too tight...
...so you're in a good club of student PPLs here.....and don't worry, its definately NOT just you!!
Good luck with everything - once you've mastered landing...then you have navexes and IF.....
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I wouldnt worry too much, Ive just been through it myself, only just got my licence last week and looked at how differently I see things now.
Firstly when adding up my logbook to send off I realise Ive done over 100 landings whilst learning, its just repetition. Things like stalls in turns used to worry me, on my test last week I realised how unworried I was, again just getting used to it.
Im a Barton flyer and as you will see when you go to Blackpool its huge and you cant miss, stick with it. I spoke to an old friend a few weeks ago and he is based at Sleap he said Barton was tricky, to us it bread and butter. Keep it up, dont worry itll all come.
Goog Luck
I wouldnt worry too much, Ive just been through it myself, only just got my licence last week and looked at how differently I see things now.
Firstly when adding up my logbook to send off I realise Ive done over 100 landings whilst learning, its just repetition. Things like stalls in turns used to worry me, on my test last week I realised how unworried I was, again just getting used to it.
Im a Barton flyer and as you will see when you go to Blackpool its huge and you cant miss, stick with it. I spoke to an old friend a few weeks ago and he is based at Sleap he said Barton was tricky, to us it bread and butter. Keep it up, dont worry itll all come.
Goog Luck
I converted from rapidly lapsing PPL(H) R22b, to 3 axis microlight when in my 40's, took me over 12 hours to get to the point at which the instructor sent me solo. I was surprised and frustrated by my lack of progress.
I really struggled with the speed/angle of approach being different to the helicopter and how much they are tied to each other. In the helicopter the speed of approach and rate of descent are almost independently variable, almost any approach is salvageable. Until you learn to sideslip bigtime you do a lot of overshoot/go-arounds.
I had a lot of "un-learning" to do before I cracked it. Once it clicked it didn't take many hours to finish the sylabus and get through the GST.
Keep at it, try to enjoy it, it is definitely worth it in the end.
Rans6...
I really struggled with the speed/angle of approach being different to the helicopter and how much they are tied to each other. In the helicopter the speed of approach and rate of descent are almost independently variable, almost any approach is salvageable. Until you learn to sideslip bigtime you do a lot of overshoot/go-arounds.
I had a lot of "un-learning" to do before I cracked it. Once it clicked it didn't take many hours to finish the sylabus and get through the GST.
Keep at it, try to enjoy it, it is definitely worth it in the end.
Rans6...
I thought 4 hours was a little early to be learning to land, until I checked my logbook and found that I started learning approaches at 4 hours but didn't start actually landing it (heavily assisted of course) until about 5.5 hours. From that point it took me about 8 hours of circuit flying to get to the point I could consistently fly the circuit completely unaided, but I had good days and days I should not have bothered driving out to the airport. Now at nearly 200 hours I still blow the odd approach if my head is not in the game 100%.
My main advice is to relax and enjoy the experience of learning. You'll find out a lot about yourself in the process.
My main advice is to relax and enjoy the experience of learning. You'll find out a lot about yourself in the process.
