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Usually have Airport charts i need in my kneeboard, paper to note down any clearances e.t.c I also have my checklist secured to the front of my kneeboard!
People use them for different things and when you fly you will find out what works for you !
FS
People use them for different things and when you fly you will find out what works for you !
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I have my A4 PLOG printed out, plastic sleeves on a ring binder which contain every plate for all airfields en-route, plus a few instrument approach charts for local airports I am familiar with. I also have 2 copies of a Archer II checklist, the AIS Lower Airspace Radar Services map you can find in Pooleys, and the boundary zones for the different areas covered by Farnborough Radar. I have a couple of spare pens attached, a little ruler tucked in the back, and mine even has a little flexi light attached to the back. I use a Pooleys A4 kneeboard, and all this lot can surprisingly be arranged very neatly. I go on the theory that I will take up as much useful information I can with me, then I dont have to panic should I need to plan a diversion.
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I've got an A5 trifold kneeboard which contains everything I need to go flying, except the headset. (I fly aerobatics a lot, in a rented plane, and taking a flight bag with all sorts of stuff is not a good idea. So I leave that on the ground.) So essentially all I need to grab is this kneeboard, my headset and some personal items (watch, sunglasses, spare glasses) and I'm legally and practically speaking ready to go.
"Everything I need" that is contained in the kneeboard is:
- License
- Flight computer, ruler, protractor (I know, not strictly needed but that's where I happen to keep them)
- Map of the local area
- Plog and relevant approach/airport plates
- Some spare bits of paper to note tacho/times etc.
- Pencil
- Checklists
- Some aeros specific items such as the sequence and some means to secure this (rubber band around my leg).
In-flight I usually do everything from memory (local flights) or I simply take out the metal insert containing the plog and approach/airport plates, the pencil and the relevant map. The rest of the kneeboard then gets stored somewhere secure but in reach.
In general, in the course of your flying career you will notice that less is more. When you prepare your flight properly the amount of paperwork and other items you actually do need in-flight is really very limited. Don't go overboard with a minimalistic approach though. Make sure all you need to do a diversion is somehow within reach. But that doesn't necessarily have to be on your kneeboard.
"Everything I need" that is contained in the kneeboard is:
- License
- Flight computer, ruler, protractor (I know, not strictly needed but that's where I happen to keep them)
- Map of the local area
- Plog and relevant approach/airport plates
- Some spare bits of paper to note tacho/times etc.
- Pencil
- Checklists
- Some aeros specific items such as the sequence and some means to secure this (rubber band around my leg).
In-flight I usually do everything from memory (local flights) or I simply take out the metal insert containing the plog and approach/airport plates, the pencil and the relevant map. The rest of the kneeboard then gets stored somewhere secure but in reach.
In general, in the course of your flying career you will notice that less is more. When you prepare your flight properly the amount of paperwork and other items you actually do need in-flight is really very limited. Don't go overboard with a minimalistic approach though. Make sure all you need to do a diversion is somehow within reach. But that doesn't necessarily have to be on your kneeboard.
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VFR I assume?
just a simple A5 plog is usually enough, so an A5 board should be fine. having the relevant airfield charts to hand is good, you can just buy a flight guide, i find AFE better than pooleys, and have the whole book ready perhaps with post its on relevant pages.
I have a speed=distance/time table with common groundspeeds and distances. Makes diversion planning easy, you could google it or knock one up on excel with relavant speeds for your aircraft. 80-140 should cover most SEP.
the good thing about an A5 board is you can strap it to your leg and it doesn't get in the way. A4 is much better for IFR as there's usually more to write down, and more approach plates and things to have to hand.
I put a strip of velcro on my board, and the opposite on my pens so they're always to hand when I need them.
just a simple A5 plog is usually enough, so an A5 board should be fine. having the relevant airfield charts to hand is good, you can just buy a flight guide, i find AFE better than pooleys, and have the whole book ready perhaps with post its on relevant pages.
I have a speed=distance/time table with common groundspeeds and distances. Makes diversion planning easy, you could google it or knock one up on excel with relavant speeds for your aircraft. 80-140 should cover most SEP.
the good thing about an A5 board is you can strap it to your leg and it doesn't get in the way. A4 is much better for IFR as there's usually more to write down, and more approach plates and things to have to hand.
I put a strip of velcro on my board, and the opposite on my pens so they're always to hand when I need them.
Just done a 3 hour flight today for a business trip and have my kneeboard here. A Pooleys trifold that I'm very fond of.
I have...
- PLOG
- Checklist & self generated sheet of aircraft information
- Visual charts for each end and my alternate
- Instrument approach plates for destination
- LARS frequency diagrams
- Quick reckoner for take-off and landing distances
- 1:500,000 tape measure
- 2 x VOR plotters
- 2 biros, pencil, chinagraph
- 1:500,000 charts for the route (I like Jeppessen charts - apart from anything else they fold small enough to fit in)
- Protractor
- Sick bag
I don't, it's true, tend to fly with minimum stuff on my knee, but it all works for me.
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I have...
- PLOG
- Checklist & self generated sheet of aircraft information
- Visual charts for each end and my alternate
- Instrument approach plates for destination
- LARS frequency diagrams
- Quick reckoner for take-off and landing distances
- 1:500,000 tape measure
- 2 x VOR plotters
- 2 biros, pencil, chinagraph
- 1:500,000 charts for the route (I like Jeppessen charts - apart from anything else they fold small enough to fit in)
- Protractor
- Sick bag
I don't, it's true, tend to fly with minimum stuff on my knee, but it all works for me.
G
The Ghengis list when I first started flying the cheemsaf list now, with a folded VFR chart loose on my lap and an airport directory on the floor beside my seat with my sandwich on top.
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I have a diagram of airfield light signals attached to my kneeboard. I'd be up a certain creek without this were I to actually notice a steady/flashing white/green/red light emanating from a control tower.
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Like most questions in aviation, the answer starts with "Well, it depends..."
...depends on the intended flight - local, cross country, training, solo, passenger, etc,...
Sick bag essential if taking a passenger (don't ask me why...).
H
...depends on the intended flight - local, cross country, training, solo, passenger, etc,...
Sick bag essential if taking a passenger (don't ask me why...).
H
Gosh! How do you guys manage to carry all that on a kneeboard?
I have a fold-out two part kneeboard. On the right is a piece of paper where I write useful things down in a format that I worked out a long time ago - start time, fuel, ATISes, clearances... and on the left are the charts for the flight, sectional if it's VFR, plates for the expected approach(es) plus en-route charts if it's IFR. And that's it! Oh, a pen jammed into the clip at the top.
If it's not a local flight, I have the California airports guide on the floor, and the book of approach plates. And if it covers more than one chart, the others in the pocket by my left knee.
For acro in the Pitts, nothing at all. I know where I'm going, and I know the frequencies.
The heli is a problem since there's only room for a teeny kneeboard, and refolding a chart in flight is essentially impossible. If I'm solo, the chart goes on the passenger seat. Otherwise I make do with my hand-written "San Francisco Terminal chart essentials". I almost never write anything in the heli.
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I have a fold-out two part kneeboard. On the right is a piece of paper where I write useful things down in a format that I worked out a long time ago - start time, fuel, ATISes, clearances... and on the left are the charts for the flight, sectional if it's VFR, plates for the expected approach(es) plus en-route charts if it's IFR. And that's it! Oh, a pen jammed into the clip at the top.
If it's not a local flight, I have the California airports guide on the floor, and the book of approach plates. And if it covers more than one chart, the others in the pocket by my left knee.
For acro in the Pitts, nothing at all. I know where I'm going, and I know the frequencies.
The heli is a problem since there's only room for a teeny kneeboard, and refolding a chart in flight is essentially impossible. If I'm solo, the chart goes on the passenger seat. Otherwise I make do with my hand-written "San Francisco Terminal chart essentials". I almost never write anything in the heli.
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For me it's all about how much space I have. For general bimbling in a spam can I use an A4 flight board, on which there is plenty of room for an A5 plog and A5 paper, there are also numerous pockets for the Pooleys plates, and pockets for a plotter, pens and a protractor. A folded up map can be placed underneath it and the weight of your arm will hold it all in place during turns etc.
Where I have very little room (in the Pitts), I use an A6 Piccolo with a printed scan of the local map area, some mini airfield charts and scrap paper, a pen on a string and a clip to hold it all together when upside down.
Where I have very little room (in the Pitts), I use an A6 Piccolo with a printed scan of the local map area, some mini airfield charts and scrap paper, a pen on a string and a clip to hold it all together when upside down.
Blank scrap paper and pen. Anything else required is in the door pocket (helicopter)
In the replica P47 the inside of the canopy was fine, right up until the day I polished the canopy inside and out with Plexus...after that it was so smooth the chinagraph wouldn't stick. Plexus is good stuff!
In the replica P47 the inside of the canopy was fine, right up until the day I polished the canopy inside and out with Plexus...after that it was so smooth the chinagraph wouldn't stick. Plexus is good stuff!
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For acro in the Pitts, nothing at all. I know where I'm going, and I know the frequencies.
As far as practicality is concerned, you also need to have a plan to divert. Suppose somebody else has a landing mishap and blocks the runway for an hour or two. Do you have everything on board for a succesful diversion, or do you have a different plan B?
what sites do you use to print the information?
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i say thing like this
http://www.experimental-aviation.com/images/carbice.jpg
i think is very important
http://www.experimental-aviation.com/images/carbice.jpg
i think is very important
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Actually that's something you don't stick on a kneeboard, but have to learn to pass the exam. Essentially the greatest risk of carb ice is with high humidity (which typically coincides with low cloud and/or rain) and temperatures between 10 and 20 degrees. But it can occur under other circumstances as well. That's all you need to remember once you passed the exam.
The chart itself is a risk analysis chart, useful to understand the phenomenon. But it doesn't have a lot of practical use in the cockpit. If the RPM drops all by itself, I'm not going to consult such a chart to see if it might be carb ice or not. I'm going to apply carb heat.
If you are going to stick charts like this on your kneeboard, you might as well stick the whole PPL book series to your kneeboard.
The chart itself is a risk analysis chart, useful to understand the phenomenon. But it doesn't have a lot of practical use in the cockpit. If the RPM drops all by itself, I'm not going to consult such a chart to see if it might be carb ice or not. I'm going to apply carb heat.
If you are going to stick charts like this on your kneeboard, you might as well stick the whole PPL book series to your kneeboard.