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Old 6th Aug 2011, 17:40
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Gawd. Willie's going to have to fill the tanks with negative fuel I guess
Old 6th Aug 2011, 19:35
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shes a pretty girl and slim (but a bit of a tom boy ) and has a great sense of humour. Im sure they will get on fine .
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Old 6th Aug 2011, 19:46
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Well she'll soon learn all about mass & balance and performance which is no bad thing. Good luck!
Old 7th Aug 2011, 00:33
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A C150 and two people who aren't anorexic dwarves... That'll be "interesting"!

Glad she's found somewhere to continue her training. All the best for the future.
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Old 7th Aug 2011, 08:45
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Hi SAS remember you and me bringing the 150 back from Ireland!
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Old 7th Aug 2011, 09:35
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I'd tried to block that one out of my mind!

ATC: Report when you reach 5000ft.
Us: Okey Dokey.

10 mins later

ATC: Errr, are you there yet?
Us: Not even close...
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Old 7th Aug 2011, 21:47
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We sure didnt make 5000' Think we crossed the sea at 3500' ahwell we made it and had a laugh! If I am not mistaken they had the cheek to put long range tanks on it too.
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Old 8th Aug 2011, 08:53
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You used to love crossing the sea...SH45?
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Old 8th Aug 2011, 11:46
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I was a student at CFC so I thought I would comment on the fiasco.
When I started training I also paid up front as the savings were worth it. However, around the end of last year I thought something was going wrong so I stopped.

Although I am not owed money the closure came at a bad time: all I have remaining to do is one exam and the skills test. So now I have to finish training on an unfamiliar aircraft which will cost me more money.

The katanas (G-BXOF and GH) were starting to look scruffy and usually there was only one. I have been told by a CFI that the propeller on GH is not fit for flight. During my cross-country I checked the oil at Dundee then Prestwick and found it to be very low. These aircraft are only 15 years old and as training aircraft I would expect them to be maintained to very high standards.

When Maria 'phoned me to tell me the school was ceasing trading she said that she would have to sell the two aircraft she owns (OF and GH). I don't think they will be worth much. (GH is the only one with a valid CofA). There are two other katanas (G-BXJV and JW) registered to the Enniskillen Flight Centre which were previously owned by Maria. I believe these are in bits down in Prestwick. The Enniskillen Flight Centre was run from Cumbernauld.

I checked the Companies House web site and there are a remarkable number of similarly named businesses along with CFC. If I were cynical, I would believe this fact speaks volumes...

I got on well with Maria and Ted, the newspaper article does neither of them any favours but at least I think I know what caused his knees to wear out. Sam and Sebastian are good instructors. It is Sam I have the most sympathy for. He just had a daughter this year so I hope things get better for him.

To close, I would advise anyone interested in learning to fly to never pay up front. But if they do make sure the money is legally safe, don't take someone's word. Check up on the company: find out who owns it and gauge whether they can be trusted.

Train on a common type, katanas were a mistake. Twitchy handing, different to the other aircraft I have tried and extremely unpleasant in cross-winds.
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Old 8th Aug 2011, 12:23
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This is a"walk away from" mess. Since it was a LTd company the directors have the protection of limited liability and are only liable for the share capital that they invested in the company. To pursue them as private individuals will simply not achieve anything. To openly bad mouth them no matter how much they deserve it could lead to an accusation of harrassment!!

As regards adminstration/liquidation forget it - it simply will not happen. An insolvency practictioner will be looking for a minimum of 10,000 even to look at the company. The company will probably be left in limbo and get dissolved by companys house in due course. Any director could of course pay 10 to companys house and ask for the dissolution of the company.
Allowing a company to be disolved by Companys' House or voluntarly disolved is quite different from a liquidation, and can have very serious consequences. For one thing, all the assets of the company belong to the Crown instantly.

I'm not sure about the liabilities in the UK, but I know in Ireland in a similar circumstance, the directors become personally liable for any debts of the company it it's removed from the register by allowing it to be struck off.

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