Removal of NPPL ‘single seat only’ restriction.

[lurker06]

My NPPL SSEA rating is due for revalidation early in January 2011. I have more than sufficient hours and take offs/landings but, because of illness, have not been able to undertake the one hour’s training with an instructor. I may be able to manage this soon, but the weather may prevent it.

I see that I can have the rating revalidated with the endorsement ‘single seat only’ but this raises two questions which I have been unable to answer after a quick scan through LASORS 2010 (published today):-

1) does ‘single seat only’ mean an aircraft with only a single seat. or does it refer to only a single seat being occupied - i.e. like the NPPL/DVLA Group 1 category;

2) what is the procedure for having the restriction removed. Beagle’s post on 14th September said ‘wording has all been agreed with the CAA’ but it does not seem to have made it into the new LASORS, unless I missed it.

I would appreciate any advice on the issues.

Lurker06

[S-Works]

It means aircraft with one seat only, ie a single seat..... To remove the restriction you need to do an LPC with an examiner.

[xrayalpha]

Bose-X

Is that right? In the Microlight NPPL world you only need an instructor (not examiner) to acquire the 60 minutes time - and then have an examiner (not just an instructor) sign away the "single seat use".

To the OP, - GET YOU RATING PAGE SIGNED NOW!

If you don't before the January date, and this snow and ice doesn't go away, then it is a GST for you!

The single seat use is a "single seat aircraft" as Bose-X says, not "solo" in a two or more seater.

But if you get your licence signed now your SSEA rating will be valid for two years - albeit you may not have access to a single seat aircraft - and then when the snow goes you just do the 60 min with an instructor and track down the examiner for a rating signature.

[S-Works]

The last guidance I was given by the CAA was that an LPC was needed if the single seat restriction was to be removed. I can found nothing in the new LASORS that either confirms or contradicts that!!!

Beagle may have a more up to date interpretation.

Mind you the new LASORS is astonishingly full of errors. Shocking considering how long it took to produce.

[GyroSteve]

LASORS errors

... yes, according to LASORS I'm qualified to fly gryoplanes .... I really must find out what they are and give it a go ..... (apologies for the drift)

[BEagle]

The following procedure was agreed between the NPPL Policy & Steering Committee and the CAA in May 2010:

To remove a Single Seat Only restriction included in an NPPL, the applicant shall:

1. Undertake at least one hour of flying training with an instructor. This may be conducted on any Class/classes for which the applicant has a valid Class Rating.

2. Present his/her licence to an Examiner to have the 'Single Seat Only Restriction' amended. The Examiner shall:

2.1 Enter the same Rating revalidation details as for the existing rating(s), omitting the 'Single Seat Only' restriction(s).
2.2 Enter the validity date(s) as for the current rating(s).
2.3 Sign and complete his/her details.

I have spent a lot of time resolving the last few NPPL issues and am very unimpressed with the errors and omissions in LASORS 2010. I e-mailed the CAA yesterday afternoon with a copy of the audit trail of the various agreements which haven't made it into LASORS - some from March 2010, others from May 2010 - and have asked how they intend to resolve the situation.

We have waited months for LASORS 2010 and it is deplorable that is should be so riddled with errors and omissions.

Lurker06, feel free to copy my quote above and e-mail Ray Elgy at the CAA to ask whether he will confirm that this process has been agreed by the Authority.

[lurker06]

Thank you, gentlemen, BEagle in particular for the wording agreed with the CAA. I am most grateful to you all for your help.

Lurker06

[Whopity]

Mind you the new LASORS is astonishingly full of errors. Shocking considering how long it took to produce.

I would have said it was entirely predictable; the reason its taken so long is that nobody has the requisite knowledge any more.

[xrayalpha]

Thanks Beagle for the words - I had, until now, just been making up my own wording!

ie. 10/12/10 Single seat restriction lifted, Joe Bloggs, 123456A

Now I can do a proper job!