Brough Aerodrome - Housing and Hotel
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Just been informed that a planning application has been submitted to build further housing and a Hotel close/right up against the airfield. So another nail in the coffin of it every opening up again.
Same I've always thought it would make an excellent GA/bizz jet airfield close to Hull. Humberside is simply too far and too inconvenient from Hull.
Same I've always thought it would make an excellent GA/bizz jet airfield close to Hull. Humberside is simply too far and too inconvenient from Hull.
That's very sad. I learned to fly there a zillion years ago, so I retain a sentimental attachment to the old place.
I stopped off to have a look at it when passing that way last year and was dismayed to see the evident deterioration and the encroachment of buildings onto the field.
That's progress, I guess.
I stopped off to have a look at it when passing that way last year and was dismayed to see the evident deterioration and the encroachment of buildings onto the field.
That's progress, I guess.
I believe BAe Systems are reluctant to see private flying return to the airfield anyway, but i also dont see it viable to build on the airfield. There is a significant flood risk, and i believe it also attracts a large ammount of wildlife.
Broughs days were numbered for civilian movements when they decided to give the Cappa Pass chimny on the approach the go-ahead. Back then they had the beginnings of scheduled flights from Hull.
Of course these plans would increase the amount of NIMBYs moving in next door to an underused airfield, so getting approval to use it as such would become increasingly harder in the future. Of course there are a couple of Hawk movements a month but how long will that last?
Broughs days were numbered for civilian movements when they decided to give the Cappa Pass chimny on the approach the go-ahead. Back then they had the beginnings of scheduled flights from Hull.
Of course these plans would increase the amount of NIMBYs moving in next door to an underused airfield, so getting approval to use it as such would become increasingly harder in the future. Of course there are a couple of Hawk movements a month but how long will that last?
After looking on the plans, it does seem the development will be built on the runway. Such a shame, but would it ever be used as an airfield proper again?
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Not only the Cappa Pass chimney, but the Humber Bridge knackered anything but VFR movements in and out of Brough and, as Pug says, Bae's somewhat myopic approach to any non company traffic operating from their airfields has always been a mystery to me.
Unlike Woodford though, it wouldn't be commercially viable for anyone else to buy it and operate it as a going concern.
That said, it will be interesting to see how the local authority planning bods square approving planning permission to build hundreds of houses on an area of known flood risk.
Unlike Woodford though, it wouldn't be commercially viable for anyone else to buy it and operate it as a going concern.
That said, it will be interesting to see how the local authority planning bods square approving planning permission to build hundreds of houses on an area of known flood risk.
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Niknak, it looks like the development will be using the runway edge as the boundary so that could get around the flood risk (and i believe the RSPB protected area). Also of note that the retail developmentw ill be in the site north of the runway and on the taxiway, with part of the runway looking to be made into a relief road.
Its not too many years ago since BAe were said to be looking at extending the runway. I suppose a sad reflection of the times, cant see them needing the runway for the hawk movements for too much longer and looks like Brough will be making components in the future (if anything at all), but suppose residential development is where all the big bucks are.
It is interesting to note that despite the promise of expanded amenities, it is being met with fierce opposition from locals.
Niknak, it looks like the development will be using the runway edge as the boundary so that could get around the flood risk (and i believe the RSPB protected area). Also of note that the retail developmentw ill be in the site north of the runway and on the taxiway, with part of the runway looking to be made into a relief road.
Its not too many years ago since BAe were said to be looking at extending the runway. I suppose a sad reflection of the times, cant see them needing the runway for the hawk movements for too much longer and looks like Brough will be making components in the future (if anything at all), but suppose residential development is where all the big bucks are.
It is interesting to note that despite the promise of expanded amenities, it is being met with fierce opposition from locals.
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A decision is expected tomorrow. I think the general consensus is that it will get the go-ahead, despite a bit of local opposition.
Looks like it will be the end of aviation on the north bank. Just how long do BAeSystems intend to hold onto the factory before that is sold for housing?
Looks like it will be the end of aviation on the north bank. Just how long do BAeSystems intend to hold onto the factory before that is sold for housing?
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Another potential GA airfield down the can.
Hull is a big city and humberside is a little too a far away (It would have been better if they developed Leaconfield for commercial ops)
But I still can't believe a Gamston type operation isn't viable and would be a great asset for the city.
No wonder BAe on the ropes they do absolutely nothing to promote aviation. In fact they went positively out of there way to prevent it.
Hull is a big city and humberside is a little too a far away (It would have been better if they developed Leaconfield for commercial ops)
But I still can't believe a Gamston type operation isn't viable and would be a great asset for the city.
No wonder BAe on the ropes they do absolutely nothing to promote aviation. In fact they went positively out of there way to prevent it.
I dont think Humbersides too far away at a 20 minute drive, but the high bridge tolls are an issue. I dont think the MOD were too keen on allowing use of Leconfield, though there were some passenger flights after Brough had to stop commercial flights.
I agree it would make a great Gamston type operation, but they have as you say actively discouraged it. I think its something to do with their factory buildings being on the approach.
There will of course be more money in building on the site unfortunately. So i think this will be the end of it.
I agree it would make a great Gamston type operation, but they have as you say actively discouraged it. I think its something to do with their factory buildings being on the approach.
There will of course be more money in building on the site unfortunately. So i think this will be the end of it.
I appreciate that it is a long time ago (late 60's?), but does anybody know how the Cappa Pass chimney managed to get through the planning system when it must have been known that it was more or less the final nail in the Hull Airport coffin? Autair were operating services to Luton at the time.
Helen49, aparantly the owners at the time (Hawker Siddeley?) only reluctantly allowed commercial traffic anyway. I believe the Autair route to Jersey was their most profitable service at the time. I will try and find the article and post it on here at some point.
It did hit the owners of Cappa Pass at the time, as they were not permitted to fly their business aircraft in after that!
It did hit the owners of Cappa Pass at the time, as they were not permitted to fly their business aircraft in after that!
When I first started work with NATCS at West Drayton in 1969, the Hull (Brough) flights were operating to/from Luton I think; would it have used Autair Heralds? I can recall them being switched to Leconfield in either '69 or '70.
Yep it was Heralds. I don't think there was enogh runway for the Ambassadors. Didn't realise that Cappa Pass had also snookered themselves! It surprises me that the relevant planning authority was denying its residents an airport or may be they considered a chimney the lesser of two evils!
As I recall, Brough was a former Blackburn Aircraft airfield along with Holme on Spalding Moor.
As I recall, Brough was a former Blackburn Aircraft airfield along with Holme on Spalding Moor.
Planning for a road bridge over the railway line has been approved. Looks like the fate of Brough as a semi-active airfield has been sealed. In my opinion it will be the end of an era, but to the people who have moved into the area in the last ten years it will probably be a godsend. Its a shame to the the area go from quiet villages to the makings of a sprawling town in just two decades.
Thats progress i suppose.
Thats progress i suppose.
