Stick or yoke?
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Just look at all the bush aircraft out there, not a stick in sight.
Stick or Yoke? Well, myself I can't say what I prefer.
Or, on the opposite, yes I can say: on the big stuff I'm happy with yokes and on light aircraft such my homebuilt Jodel (shown here on the picture below) I definitly rely on stick.
My only problem is that having flown for 28 years I'm still unable to say if I prefer flying "heavy metal" or "paper aicraft"....
H.
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Stick every time for me - only flown 1 type with a yoke (a C152 for my SSEA rating, and then only because nothing with a stick was available!). Frankly I didn't like it at all and I heaved a big sigh of relief when my rating was done and I switched to a Citabria for my tailwheel conversion.
Admittedly I tend to enjoy chucking my planes about (whether microlight, glider or Group A) so perhaps a yoke is ok if you don't really want to 'yank & bank'. Personally I wouldn't buy (or pay to fly in) anything with a yoke though, it just feels too much like driving a car...
While we're at it, I prefer a quadrant throttle too. Throttle in left hand, stick in right hand, the natural order of things (Dons tin hat for incoming...).
Admittedly I tend to enjoy chucking my planes about (whether microlight, glider or Group A) so perhaps a yoke is ok if you don't really want to 'yank & bank'. Personally I wouldn't buy (or pay to fly in) anything with a yoke though, it just feels too much like driving a car...
While we're at it, I prefer a quadrant throttle too. Throttle in left hand, stick in right hand, the natural order of things
(Dons tin hat for incoming...).
Stick every time for me - only flown 1 type with a yoke (a C152 for my SSEA rating, and then only because nothing with a stick was available!). Frankly I didn't like it at all and I heaved a big sigh of relief when my rating was done and I switched to a Citabria for my tailwheel conversion.
Admittedly I tend to enjoy chucking my planes about (whether microlight, glider or Group A) so perhaps a yoke is ok if you don't really want to 'yank & bank'. Personally I wouldn't buy (or pay to fly in) anything with a yoke though, it just feels too much like driving a car...
While we're at it, I prefer a quadrant throttle too. Throttle in left hand, stick in right hand, the natural order of things (Dons tin hat for incoming...).
Admittedly I tend to enjoy chucking my planes about (whether microlight, glider or Group A) so perhaps a yoke is ok if you don't really want to 'yank & bank'. Personally I wouldn't buy (or pay to fly in) anything with a yoke though, it just feels too much like driving a car...
While we're at it, I prefer a quadrant throttle too. Throttle in left hand, stick in right hand, the natural order of things
(Dons tin hat for incoming...).(1) A Cessna 152 has a yoke
(2) Flying a Cessna 152 is boring.
(3) Therefore, all aeroplanes with yokes are boring to fly.
Not sure that quite computes.
G
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I just feel like a yoke doesn't let me 'think' and plane around the sky like a stick does, and I get my jollies from the sense of control rather than the joy of travel that others derive from touring.
.I agree completely that sticks are generally more direct and responsive than yokes, but yokes are more practical for touring, unless the stick is cranked so that you can stil use a knee board. I don't think though that if I liked the aircraft because of performance, handling, economy etc I would be influenced by yoke/ stick or indeed plunger/quadrant.
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And another thing..
On the subject of throttles, I'm totally with MicrolightGary when he says that a quadrant throttle in the left hand and a stick in the right is the proper order of things.
I'm not saying that a Cessna has a yoke, a Cessna is dull, therefore all yoke equipped aircraft are dull. Its just that a 172 IS dull. A PA28 IS dull. I realise its what you do with it that counts, its just that most of these machines are used in a dull way.
Nobody ever saw a Vectra on the road and thought 'Now I bet that guy is off to an adventure', whereas when I see a TVR on the road I think 'That guy must be passionate and therefore interesting because only a passionate person would put up with such an unreliable but fun car.'
I hope that makes sense.
On the subject of throttles, I'm totally with MicrolightGary when he says that a quadrant throttle in the left hand and a stick in the right is the proper order of things.
I'm not saying that a Cessna has a yoke, a Cessna is dull, therefore all yoke equipped aircraft are dull. Its just that a 172 IS dull. A PA28 IS dull. I realise its what you do with it that counts, its just that most of these machines are used in a dull way.
Nobody ever saw a Vectra on the road and thought 'Now I bet that guy is off to an adventure', whereas when I see a TVR on the road I think 'That guy must be passionate and therefore interesting because only a passionate person would put up with such an unreliable but fun car.'
I hope that makes sense.
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quadrant throttle in the left hand and a stick in the right is the proper order of things.
passionate person would put up with such an unreliable but fun car.'
There are mad group of people who regularly drive from europe to west Africa in some sort of race, their cars being old bangers costing a few hundred pounds. Par tof the challenge is keeping thm going. Its not what you drive but how and where you drive
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I really love the stick in a Diamond, but since i am left handed
It's a bit like the gas or charcoal argument for a barbeque - we all puff up our chest and say real pilots fly with a stick
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FleetFlyer said...
No not really.
If I was to take-off in, for example, a YAK, fly at 100knots in a straight line, land at a boring airfield to eat a boring sandwich, take-off and fly directly home in a straight line at 100kts, I would probably think that a YAK was dull.
I have great fun flying my 'dull' 172 around, but then again I do so in an environment of interesting terrain and airports.
People who acuse ANY type of aeroplane of being dull are probably just dull themselves.
I'm not saying that a Cessna has a yoke, a Cessna is dull, therefore all yoke equipped aircraft are dull. Its just that a 172 IS dull. A PA28 IS dull. I realise its what you do with it that counts, its just that most of these machines are used in a dull way.
Nobody ever saw a Vectra on the road and thought 'Now I bet that guy is off to an adventure', whereas when I see a TVR on the road I think 'That guy must be passionate and therefore interesting because only a passionate person would put up with such an unreliable but fun car.'
I hope that makes sense.
Nobody ever saw a Vectra on the road and thought 'Now I bet that guy is off to an adventure', whereas when I see a TVR on the road I think 'That guy must be passionate and therefore interesting because only a passionate person would put up with such an unreliable but fun car.'
I hope that makes sense.
If I was to take-off in, for example, a YAK, fly at 100knots in a straight line, land at a boring airfield to eat a boring sandwich, take-off and fly directly home in a straight line at 100kts, I would probably think that a YAK was dull.
I have great fun flying my 'dull' 172 around, but then again I do so in an environment of interesting terrain and airports.
People who acuse ANY type of aeroplane of being dull are probably just dull themselves.
I remember once just how boring landing a PA28 on the beach at Barra was, after a 50 mile sea crossing. I was absolutely bored silly as I tried to track straight through clouds of seawater spraying up, and hated every moment of it sitting stable on the way from there to Islay so all I could do was enjoy the unique and unparallelled view over the hebrides.
Did a similar trip a few years later in a Chipmunk with India-Mike (cheers old chap, I still owe you a trip!), that was dull too - barely enough height under a 3,000ft cloudbase to fly loops safely, and couldn't spin it that day - all we could do was fly between little Island airstrips with a few aerobatics in between. No idea why we stretched it out until just before dusk.
Come to think of it, pretty much all aeroplanes are boring - no idea why I bother.
G
Did a similar trip a few years later in a Chipmunk with India-Mike (cheers old chap, I still owe you a trip!), that was dull too - barely enough height under a 3,000ft cloudbase to fly loops safely, and couldn't spin it that day - all we could do was fly between little Island airstrips with a few aerobatics in between. No idea why we stretched it out until just before dusk.
Come to think of it, pretty much all aeroplanes are boring - no idea why I bother.
G
quadrant throttle in the left hand and a stick in the right is the proper order of things.
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Parked is a bit rich though. More like abandoned for the delights of the home made soup and bread in the terminal.
What ever happened to that cub that got flipped and was pegged out in the sand dunes?
What ever happened to that cub that got flipped and was pegged out in the sand dunes?
After 20 years in my 747 funny how l have no probs with my RV6 and the 747 has a control wheel ...and it aint boring. The rv stick can of course disappear up your trouser leg on entry.
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An interesting thread this!
I'm not saying that every yoke equipped aircraft is dull at all; I don't have enough experience of yoke flying to be that sweeping!
But - I think that stick aircraft are generally more chuckable and as such get flown in a more 'exuberant' style... that's what appeals to me and I find it more natural to fly stick in right hand, throttle in left.
Frankly I wouldn't refuse to fly in anything, but with limited funds available, I'll spend my hard earned cash on something with a stick rather than a yoke every time.
I'm not saying that every yoke equipped aircraft is dull at all; I don't have enough experience of yoke flying to be that sweeping!
But - I think that stick aircraft are generally more chuckable and as such get flown in a more 'exuberant' style... that's what appeals to me and I find it more natural to fly stick in right hand, throttle in left.
Frankly I wouldn't refuse to fly in anything, but with limited funds available, I'll spend my hard earned cash on something with a stick rather than a yoke every time.
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FleetFlyer...never assume!
Next time you are behind that boring Vectra, see where it goes, it might be me en route to fly my stick controlled aerobatic taildragger with the throttle and prop controls in my left hand and the stick in my right!
Next time you are behind that boring Vectra, see where it goes, it might be me en route to fly my stick controlled aerobatic taildragger with the throttle and prop controls in my left hand and the stick in my right!