Dogs in aeroplanes!
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Hi All,
Just after a little advice if possible. My little dog is a almost a year old now and the other half and I are keen to take him away with us for the weekend in the PA28. He's got a lovely calm temperament and is nicely trained and now.
We wondered if the noise of the aircraft would bother him - no headset for him obviously! So, we taxied for fuel with him being held in the back a few weeks ago to see if it would bother him and he was great, sat there no bother. Obviously the engine noise would be quite a bit louder once the take off roll starts and I don't want to scare him. I thought starting with a quick local flight would be a good plan to check I wasn't going to terrify him to within an inch of his life!
Has anyone had any experience with flying with their dog? I'd obviously always have someone to watch him, not just me and him. Besides regular stops for toilet/drinks etc are there any other thing you can advise please? Also, has anyone seen or heard of them being affected by altitude in any way and to any greater extent than us humans?
Advice appreciated before I subject the poor chap to something that might be unfair.
B
Just after a little advice if possible. My little dog is a almost a year old now and the other half and I are keen to take him away with us for the weekend in the PA28. He's got a lovely calm temperament and is nicely trained and now.
We wondered if the noise of the aircraft would bother him - no headset for him obviously! So, we taxied for fuel with him being held in the back a few weeks ago to see if it would bother him and he was great, sat there no bother. Obviously the engine noise would be quite a bit louder once the take off roll starts and I don't want to scare him. I thought starting with a quick local flight would be a good plan to check I wasn't going to terrify him to within an inch of his life!
Has anyone had any experience with flying with their dog? I'd obviously always have someone to watch him, not just me and him. Besides regular stops for toilet/drinks etc are there any other thing you can advise please? Also, has anyone seen or heard of them being affected by altitude in any way and to any greater extent than us humans?
Advice appreciated before I subject the poor chap to something that might be unfair.
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It's great he wasn't spooked by it. I would definately get a pair of mutt-muffs though, an engine at full power in an enclosed space can be torturous for some dogs, especially in the back of most light aircraft where the bass frequencies resonate
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Well, I have two greyhounds and they have well over 100 flying hours each. Based in Blackpool, they have flown to Jersey direct (3 hours); Western Isles of Scotland; Alderney to Cornwall, etc. Up to FL100, but usually around 3-4,000 feet.
You have to know your own dog, of course, so there are no hard and fast rules. We take large comfortable beds and make sure that they have had exercise before we go flying. They are large dogs, but that's not a bad thing - they don't walk around whilst we are flying! (C172, usually - 1 in the baggage compartment, the other on the back seat).
We don't use ear defenders - they don't seem to mind not having them and they don't like anything on their heads. (How would you keep them on?)
We have also found lots of really good dog walks next to airfields (Donegal, Carenarfon, North Coates, Welshpool, Isle of Man, Oban, Mull - I could go on).
We love taking the dogs with us and they love flying. Far better behaved than kids! Go for it.
You have to know your own dog, of course, so there are no hard and fast rules. We take large comfortable beds and make sure that they have had exercise before we go flying. They are large dogs, but that's not a bad thing - they don't walk around whilst we are flying! (C172, usually - 1 in the baggage compartment, the other on the back seat).
We don't use ear defenders - they don't seem to mind not having them and they don't like anything on their heads. (How would you keep them on?)
We have also found lots of really good dog walks next to airfields (Donegal, Carenarfon, North Coates, Welshpool, Isle of Man, Oban, Mull - I could go on).
We love taking the dogs with us and they love flying. Far better behaved than kids! Go for it.
Excuse me for being radical, but I sincerely believe dogs have no place in our small light planes, unless VERY well secured. I must admit I am not a dog lover, and never having had one I am not acquainted with the race, but I understand no dog is guaranteed against the one incomprehensible moment of madness. This has provoked accidents bad enough with cars - in a plane I daren't even imagine what could happen.
And yes I know you Brits adore pets - I kept my first reply behind, out of respect.
And yes I know you Brits adore pets - I kept my first reply behind, out of respect.
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Excuse me for being radical, but I sincerely believe dogs have no place in our small light planes, unless VERY well secured. I must admit I am not a dog lover, and never having had one I am not acquainted with the race, but I understand no dog is guaranteed against the one incomprehensible moment of madness. This has provoked accidents bad enough with cars - in a plane I daren't even imagine what could happen.
And yes I know you Brits adore pets - I kept my first reply behind, out of respect.
And yes I know you Brits adore pets - I kept my first reply behind, out of respect.
My Yorkie is highly unlikely to attempt to seize control of the aircraft or find anything to damage. She likes flying, has hundreds of hours and is great company. She even fly's at work with me on occasion.
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Aviating canines...
Our dachshund has recently (at the age of 11) taken to heli-flying, with no problems at all. She's even worked out when we're on approach and perks up to see where we're at.
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I think I met the couple with the two greyhounds, in Glenforsa a couple of weeks ago. The dogs were gorgeous and very contented. I also met a guy from Strathaven who had his terrier type dog fly with him, also she has her own custom headset - sooo cute!
Definitely worth pursuing.
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Flew with my little fox-terrier for years in Africa, mainly in C210's and C404's. He loved it, would eventually jump into any open aircraft in the hope of a flight. No problems ever, except maybe that he was always trying to eat the refueller at Jan Smuts. He even went up in gliders with me, turbulence didn't bother him a bit. Go for it, he's a dog, he'll love it!
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From the dogs point of view, surely some sort of hearing protection is vital? Most light aircraft are unbearably loud with no headset on for any length of time, and dogs have much better hearing than us. The pooch may seem quite content in the back, but would you be happy to sit there for the whole flight with nothing over your ears?
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Given the suggestion that the aircraft of the future will be crewed by a man and a dog. (the man is there to feed the dog, the dog is there to bite the man if he touches the controls) the sooner we get the dogs flying the better!
I have already seen the prototype, a man who always seems to have a golden retriever in the other seat of his Thruster. Last time I met him he was taking a new litter of puppies flying, one at a time.
Rans6...
I have already seen the prototype, a man who always seems to have a golden retriever in the other seat of his Thruster. Last time I met him he was taking a new litter of puppies flying, one at a time.
Rans6...
A guy at Sandtoft owns his own PA28 & takes his Labrador flying quite often & the dog seems to enjoy it, It sits in the back though even when he's on his own with no other human paz.
Saw him down at Duxford in July with the Labrador.
Nice chap & well behaved dog.
Trev
Saw him down at Duxford in July with the Labrador.
Nice chap & well behaved dog.
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Treat the pooch like a person. If it is relaxed in the plane, don't worry. If it is worried, better head down.
I was flying the boss's 172 once, with he, and his great dane aboard. She was a lovely dog, though perhaps simply lonely in the back. She tried to get into the front with us part way through the trip. The boss fought the battle, I flew the plane. I think I remember some yelling. I'm glad the upholstery repair bill did not come to me!
I was flying the boss's 172 once, with he, and his great dane aboard. She was a lovely dog, though perhaps simply lonely in the back. She tried to get into the front with us part way through the trip. The boss fought the battle, I flew the plane. I think I remember some yelling. I'm glad the upholstery repair bill did not come to me!
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If our Jack Russell in the car is anything to go by....
....he'd be murder. Ho goes mental at cyclists and tractors. On the motorway, on the other hand, he sleeps at my wife's feet or on her lap, so I guess, in the air he'd be fine. Just avoid cyclists and tractors. In fact, perhaps he could be a sort of low-budget TCAS... 
Dogs in aeroplanes!
I thought that this was another thread about ba stewardesses (or whatever the PC title is these days).....
