when should i file vfr flight plan?
About an hour and a half after landing Fairoaks, I received a mobile call from the Distress/121.5 cell at Swanick asking if I was ok, as Cambridge had called them due my overdue /non-arrival there.
I assumed that an IFR plan would be closed on landing, but it seems if you divert your original destination is not advised by the ATC system.
I assumed that an IFR plan would be closed on landing, but it seems if you divert your original destination is not advised by the ATC system.
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In general, yes, a flight plan is required for crossing a national border, for an IFR flight and for some classes of controlled airspace
A FP is NOT required for an IFR flight OCAS in the UK.
I was not aware that a FP is required between some Schengen countries either.
Originally Posted by BackPacker
The full submission is not necessary when entering Controlled Airspace
My response was to the question specifically asked:
Originally Posted by cessna310
When should/must i file vfr flight plan while flying in UK?
A couple of other points:
douglas.lindsay's report that Glasgow have requested online FP filing for CAS transit is absolutely right - but this was reported by them (via NOTAM)as being a temporary measure only whilst new systems bed in. I don't think this has changed - has it? In any event, it is currently local to them only.
A number of people on this thread have mentioned that a FPL is useful if you go missing en-route. Yes, but all should be aware that overdue action will only be initiated in the UK if a "responsible person" triggers it. If you are flying to/from many (the majority) of the smaller fields and strips in the UK, that responsible person may need to be somebody you explicitly nominate and task with undertaking that the warning role. Unlike elsewhere in the World, overdue action may well NOT be triggered just because you are late, and you need to understand this if you intend to make use of a Flight Plan as SAR insurance.
Sorry - but this question from somebody with a frozen ATP and 1200 hours total time?
Is Euro training so poor that
a) this type of question really has to be asked and
b) more importantly seemingly not knowing where to go to find the answer without having to ask in the first place?
The quality of questions sometimes beggars belief.
Is Euro training so poor that
a) this type of question really has to be asked and
b) more importantly seemingly not knowing where to go to find the answer without having to ask in the first place?
The quality of questions sometimes beggars belief.
Further comments restrained to avoid counter-productivity.
Last edited by Jan Olieslagers; 10th Oct 2010 at 19:20.
Thanks, didn't know that. I always assumed that having had a re-clearance from the Airways system they would inform your orginal FP destination.
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a couple of the above posts seem to contradict on the subject of entry to class D airspace. on one hand the letter of the regulations seems to require a flight plan for VFR flights "within class B, C & D airspace". on the other hand it's been suggested that clearances for this will be given in flight, no flight plan required. is there a difference between flight "within class D" and "through class D" or is this a situation where practise has actually diverged from the rules?
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is there a difference between flight "within class D" and "through class D" or is this a situation where practise has actually diverged from the rules?
What you have missed is that "clearances given in flight" are, whether they look like them or not, flight plans.
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douglas.lindsay's report that Glasgow have requested online FP filing for CAS transit is absolutely right - but this was reported by them (via NOTAM)as being a temporary measure
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douglas.lindsay's report that Glasgow have requested online FP filing for CAS transit is absolutely right - but this was reported by them (via NOTAM)as being a temporary measure
Thanks for taking the trouble to enquire, Douglas. Did they indicate whether they now consider this to be a permanent standing request?
This thread, from Flyer, describes and discusses the situation as understood when this request first arose back in June.
This thread, from Flyer, describes and discusses the situation as understood when this request first arose back in June.