Cost of landing in Holland
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Have you already been in contact with the Vliegclub Rotterdam? If not, I am a member there, and maybe I can be of any assistance. Send me a Private Message to get in contact with me.
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Trip EGGP to EHRD was great. 2hrs T/O to Land 278 nm !!!! Coasted out nr Ipswich. Rotterdam Flying club very helpful (Thanks Margot). All planning facilities on site. Fuel self service. Would recommend Argus (internet in UK) car hire via Sixt. Note RFC dont accept Mastercard / Visa, but they do accept cash. Landing / Handling /Parking 1 night was a reasonable 44 EU. Thanks to all for help
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Slipway, do note that you will get a bill for ATC charges later on, via Eurocontrol. I believe this will be between 6 and 12 euros.
The landing charge you paid is exclusively for Rotterdam Airport, the owner of the tarmac. LVNL (the Dutch NATS) will send you (actually the registered owner/operator of the aircraft) a separate bill for ATC charges, and this will be handled via Eurocontrol.
This has confused people in the past since normally Eurocontrol only charges *en-route charges* for IFR aircraft over two tonnes or something like that. But *terminal charges*, like these ones, do not have a minimum weight limit, nor a distinction between VFR and IFR.
There are a few countries, including the Netherlands, who use the billing system of Eurocontrol to invoice their terminal charges. At other places it's invoiced direct, or part of the landing fee.
If you are not the owner/operator of the aircraft, you might want to give them a heads-up, or they'll be very confused and surprised.
More info here:
EUROCONTROL - Bilateral Agreement relating to Terminal Air Navigation Charges
The landing charge you paid is exclusively for Rotterdam Airport, the owner of the tarmac. LVNL (the Dutch NATS) will send you (actually the registered owner/operator of the aircraft) a separate bill for ATC charges, and this will be handled via Eurocontrol.
This has confused people in the past since normally Eurocontrol only charges *en-route charges* for IFR aircraft over two tonnes or something like that. But *terminal charges*, like these ones, do not have a minimum weight limit, nor a distinction between VFR and IFR.
There are a few countries, including the Netherlands, who use the billing system of Eurocontrol to invoice their terminal charges. At other places it's invoiced direct, or part of the landing fee.
If you are not the owner/operator of the aircraft, you might want to give them a heads-up, or they'll be very confused and surprised.
More info here:
EUROCONTROL - Bilateral Agreement relating to Terminal Air Navigation Charges
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Thanks for that Backpacker. Not seen anything as yet, and I am the only contact on the FP so not sure how they would contact our group owned aircraft otherwise,
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As far as I know they simply send the bill to the registered owner or operator. That info is most likely supplied by the CAA and would be the same as listed in G-INFO. I'm pretty sure they're not using the info on the FP.
It may take up to six months for that bill to arrive though. We're currently dealing with bills that date back to an event from May 2010.
It may take up to six months for that bill to arrive though. We're currently dealing with bills that date back to an event from May 2010.
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Did you get a clearance through Manchesters zone? Because 278nm is dct, just routing via WHI then TNT VOR puts a few miles on it. I must say it seems a lot less than i would have expected, west coast of Blighty to Holland. Skydemon puts it at 278 dct. Did you have one or two engines? If one then congrats on taking the dct route, the plane doesn't know its over water
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Yes I agree, but that's more than 278nm, a moot point i know but as i said it seemed less than i would have thought, hence my checking the distance and the figure quoted is a straight line from a-b which isn't really flyable is it? Its a little interesting that route takes you directly overhead a few airfields! Nottingham, Langar D/Z watch out for the gliders at Saltby, Fenland, a knats to the south of Marham, looking for the gliders to your right at Watton, then through a virtual clutch matz of GA fields namely Hethel, Seething and Old Buckingham then through Beccles ATZ just before coasting out! That's a lot of frequencies to have on the plog for the route don't you agree? I hope box 2 was working well! I know the airspace this side of the FIR is free up to FL195, does anyone know what the max level entering the Dutch side limit you too? Just thinking as its almost 100nm of water, so as much alt as poss was my thinking? There are also a lot of rigs out in that direction, would that be a good thing to keep in mind if the donk quits?
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EGGP - EHRD
Went WHI then OH Nottingham, then dct to a user wp on nav on the FIR boundary ( >FL 75 to aviod MIL)then dct East to EHRD which needed 3 VRPS inputting to nav.
See the Pic of the MFD in the previous post.
See the Pic of the MFD in the previous post.