VIP PPL

[captainmacuk]

hi folks

just been scanning the orlando flight training web site, have u seen the ppl for vip business men(eg). .done in two weeks, and treated like a vip for duration, what a cheek, they should be treating every student like a vip with the amount of cash your spending <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

the cost is $5995 (i think)

what do you guys think of this then,

cya

[EX FTE]

Great believer in "you get what you pay for".

If someone wants to charge over the odds for a PPL course with benefits then why not. If someone wants to pay over the odds then why not.

Laws of supply & demand will dictate who survives in any market place. If the "lower end" are not getting value for money, word will get out and business will go else where.

[What a Loop]

I agree that you get what you pay for.

I went flying with them last summer, doing a few hours here and there for fun. They treated me very well even gave me their new Warrior III for a while. Altogether quite happy to go back. Most people I talked to whilst out there were resonably happy.

I suppose after 11/9 they are trying for any business angle they can get.

If it keeps them afloat and available to help us get cheap hours, them maybe it isn't a bad thing

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[Evo7]

Two week PPL? They keep getting shorter..!

[Squawk 8888]

I'm going to be in Orlando in April- what are their rental rates like? Any contact info?

TIA

[sennadog]

My two quids worth. I wouldn't want to do a PPL in two weeks - it's just too quick! I don't think that you'll come out as a particularly good pilot at the end of it although I can see how the shortness of the course would be enticing.

A parrallel example with me at the moment is my Air Law. I'm due to take it in a week's time but I was offered a slot for this Wednesday - boy, was I tempted! An opportunity to get another one under my belt. I could pass the exam on Wednesday but I would only have learnt to pass the exam rather than learnt the material i.e used the Confuser and Thom questions to pass. Instead, I decided not to and to revise properly - so much so that I've spent all afternoon today going through all of the AIC's instead of quickly trawling them for the correct answer.

Now, call me an old fuddy duddy but I'd be far more confident knowing that I have a better understanding of Air Law (in this example)rather than an "exam pass" instead. The same applies for my PPL - why not consider taking the first 20 hours or whatever over there in order to reduce costs?

Basically, I'm saying that IMO 2 weeks is going to be very hard work with the flying and studying and I'm not sure that people come out as good pilots.

Good luck, whatever you decide.

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

2 weeks is too quick if it includes exams.

WWW

[Evo7]

Two weeks would be too quick for me without exams! I guess they mean 45 hours in 2 weeks (and tough if it takes more - which means most of us don't make it <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> ), but that's still 3 hours a day. Every day. After most lessons I need plenty of time to think it all through, and I would struggle to learn from 2 hours tuition a day. OK, nav's probably skew this a bit, but it still seems waaaaay too much.

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[Skylark4]

Two weeks / too short.. .This is an extension of my feelings about learning to Glide at an aerotow only site,Yes, you can learn to pass the test in a fairly short time but you have not had time to absorb all the other stuff by osmosis in the bus/bar/coffee shop/whatever.. .As someone else said, it`s probably a good idea to put in some concentrated flying to start with, just to get over the usual hurdles, but then take it slowly.

Mike W

[ERJ_145]

Two weeks, too short! It's all a matter of the individual, as many top execs are very very switched on and have an amazing ability to absorb. Of course some people require a little more time and they quite rightly like everybody else deserve (as customers) the best instruction.

For the record I went solo at 5 hours and did my PPL in 12 days, and yes it was hard!!!!!!!!

[Deeko01]

Just came back from there last month having completed my JAA PPL (A), I done mine in 23 days and that includes written exams, it's not impossible but would be very rushed but I dont honestly think they are geared up to offer that, sice I had trouble getting aeroplanes from time to time and weather, I actually did lose 4 days due weather in Jan so I guess I could have done it in 19 days but even the shortness of time I did it in was to quick but hey I got my ppl so I am not complaining and you never stop learning just because you got the ticket.

[QUERY]

Two weeks is rare and only achieved with favourable circumstances.. .It would be an irresponsible, if not dishonest, offer because any training provider is always vulnerable to customers' ability, weather conditions, breakdowns, staff sickness etc.. .Is captainmacuk mistaken or winding-up with this rumour? Or is this offer another version of the old 'minimum' scam, in which everyone actually has to pay them more to pass.. .Also, the price quoted is very expensive for a JAA PPL in Florida but there is no info. on what is included or excluded. If you want to spend more than £3000, a better idea might be to hire your own car and choose your own restaurants with the money you have saved -by not going to OFT.

[Julian]

Think this one is for the rich kids as if you overrun - which you prob will as its rare for anyone to get the PPL in the minimums - your PPL costs will go through the roof as you end up paying for the extra days at VIP rates!!

Julian.