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Old 8th Jul 2010, 10:22
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Hi,

If anyone has used this AME (Shipley) for medicals/renewals, I'd appreciate a PM with any positive/negative info ? (Can't get a suitable appointment with my usual guy).

Thanks

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Old 8th Jul 2010, 10:53
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Are you trying to get someone to libel him? Not an appropriate question on a public forum!
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 10:54
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libel?

He asked for a PM
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 11:01
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Are you trying to get someone to libel him? Not an appropriate question on a public forum!
Not sure why people ask stupid questions like that, but for the record, no, I'm not trying to "libel" anyone, I'd just like to know that the guy is sound before I book with him.
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 23:13
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This may come as surprise but Jim59 makes a totally valid point. A person's character may be defamed if a malicious statement is conveyed to one or more people (hence the use of PM makes no difference) by publication (libel) or the spoken word (slander). In law inferring a professional person cannot carry out their occupation competently is generally accepted as malicious (and therefore defamatory) unless proven to be true. The only person(s) who could so comment on a doctor's competence would be one of his/her peers or a regulatory authority. Certainly not a pilot. Ergo if I commented in negative way about a doctor's competence and my comments could be proven to be made by me (and without substance) I would be well and truly screwed.

There is a mass of defamation taking place all over the internet on a daily basis. Just because it has become virtually normal does not make it right and, more importantly, every now and again, somebody steps over the mark and ends up in court.

The defence "everbody's doing it" will carry very little chance of success!
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Old 9th Jul 2010, 00:10
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It is perfectly possible for someone to be a first rate doctor and a complete pillock of a person....
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Old 9th Jul 2010, 07:35
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Dr. Tedd? Yeah, he's a great guy.

I've used the services of some half a dozen different AMEs and I doubt I could get a fag paper between them for their qualities and capabilities. All were interested in aviation, all were competent, all roughly the same cost and, most importantly, all passed me. Never met one I didn't like.

It would never occur to me to ask on an open forum what any one particular doctor is like. Positive/negative info? Like what? Ease of parking at his premises or whether he is likely to be lenient over a borderline medical issue (I suspect the latter is of more interest).

What is an "unsound" AME? Shouldn't they lose their autorisations and be struck off? Are you concerned that an AME could pass you when you are actually medically unfit? Or that you could be failed when your usual chap would pass you?

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Old 9th Jul 2010, 08:15
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AME's are a bit like Scrutineers in motorsport.
They are there to make sure you as a pilot,or the car as a race driver in motorsport are safe for the purpouse.
Some drivers look at scrutineers as though they are trying to find a reason you can't race.
In actual fact they are ensuring that your racing machine conforms with all the safety and technical specifications.
There are also medical staff there to check if neccessary that the driver is fit to drive.
Well in flying we have the similar,engineers,mechanics,Cof A ,LAA to ensure aircraft is safe,and the AME to ensure pilot is OK to fly.

It all makes sense,I would rather be told by a doctor that something was wrong ,than not know.
Interesting for me though,last year I had AME class 2 medical,including ECG,all OK,then three weeks later had total heart block and a pacemaker fitted.
Now flying NPPL
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In law inferring a professional person cannot carry out their occupation competently is generally accepted as malicious (and therefore defamatory) unless proven to be true.
Looks like "Rogue Traders" is going to be in a lot of trouble!
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Old 9th Jul 2010, 13:34
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Why was the original request any different to recommend me a flight school, good or bad ?

All aim to get you through the PPL, some make it pleasant some less so. Some do just enough, some more thorough...... based on this feedback an individual can make their own assumptions ?
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Medicals Useless?

last year I had AME class 2 medical,including ECG,all OK,then three weeks later had total heart block and a pacemaker fitted.

Says it all!
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Old 9th Jul 2010, 13:57
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says what?
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Old 9th Jul 2010, 14:39
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Why was the original request any different to recommend me a flight school, good or bad ?
Never understood those requests either. What's suitable for one person may not be suitable for another; for example, I know some people are a big fan of a certain heli school in the Home Counties but I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole.

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Old 10th Jul 2010, 11:17
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Years ago I had a medical. The AME doing it, whilst perfectly pleasant, seemed a little nervous : perhaps a little less than used to the requirements : kept checking a list over and over, and generally didn't fill me with a lot of confidence.

There was a problem with the ECG readout (which took a couple of attempts to achieve due to the AME being "not familiar with this machine"), which meant I had to be referred to a specialist, and undertake stress tests etc. The specialist seemed confused by the results of these tests, because they showed no problem at all. His verdict was that "it's possible that the first results could have been caused by a lead not being correctly attached". Loads of hassle, worry and unwarranted expense. (I've had lots of them since, all without a problem).

Anyway, never mind ... thanks for the "advice" ...
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Old 10th Jul 2010, 20:01
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last year I had AME class 2 medical,including ECG,all OK,then three weeks later had total heart block and a pacemaker fitted.

Says it all!
Explain please.........

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Old 10th Jul 2010, 20:14
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Presumably the inference is that there is no point in medicals at least as far as heart block is concerned. The success of the reduced NPPL medical requirements and general lack of medically significant incidents lends some credence to this hypothesis.
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Old 10th Jul 2010, 20:36
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Cusco - if you don't know Lister, I'd be happy to affect an intro. You two will get on famously!

Intro at LKI, Bob's or my strip. You guys call it.

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