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Extra 500 - why so rare?

Old 6th Aug 2010, 20:17
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SFERMA Marquis

Be58 with turbines, may be a Be55 would do?

About 50 years ago the French fitted Astazou turbines to Beech Barons; called the SFERMA 60 Marquis, F-BLLR of Air Lorient (?) comes to mind.
Not sure if any would still be working today.
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Old 22nd May 2012, 04:02
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Found a pretty cool clip of an Extra 500 doing a short field landing at Aachen.

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Old 22nd May 2012, 07:51
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Some information I was able to gather at the Extra booth in Friedrichshafen:
  • FAA certification is imminent
  • There will be an EASA approved type rating course very soon, in Aachen
  • Cost per hour in Aachen is *700
  • The current autopilot S-TEC 55x will be replaced by the more suitable Avidyne DFC90 once certified
  • All planes are built to order, about 12 months until delivery
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Old 22nd May 2012, 07:58
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That is a LOT for a SE TP.
All planes are built to order, about 12 months until delivery
As are Mooneys

Don't get me wrong... I very much like the E500 and wish it success. But they must expect more suckers than are going around at that price level. Especially post Eclipse...
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Old 22nd May 2012, 08:26
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That is a LOT for a SE TP.
Capital cost is probably the main factor here. Purchase price is 1.3m + VAT. If you depreciate over 20 years and fly 200h a year, then it's 325/h depreciation and at 5% interest another 325/h for interest.

I'm pretty sure it will eventually become a success. Its direct competitor is the Cessna P210 Silver Eagle which is a very old bird with poor pressurization. The PT6 competition (Malibu/Jetprop) cruises at higher altitudes at higher fuel burn and it's an old airframe. The Rolls-Royce 250 turbine is very attractive for the typical European mission.

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Old 22nd May 2012, 09:28
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I don't exactly disagree but this "better plane for 10x more capital outlay" has always been the option in aviation.

Some people pay the extra, but looking at the generally decrepit state of GA, most don't.

Also most private owners won't factor in the interest. Only a madman will buy a plane on finance, IMHO. Also, if you factor in interest then you will stay in bed and never do anything interesting, because a better place for money will always be in financial instruments
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Old 25th Sep 2012, 04:19
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Sorry to dredge up this old one, but just found a new clip of the 500 with Walter himself at the controls. Some beautiful footage of it flying towards the end.
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 22:22
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Sorry to necropost, but I was wondering if anyone's seen any Extra 500's around Europe lately during your travels? Don't hear much about them and I don't know how many they've sold. It's still on the website, so I'm assuming they still build them.
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Old 10th Nov 2013, 19:50
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Extra 500 Nr. 1 own Walther
Extra 500 Nr. 2 my neighbour in EDAZ
Extra 500 Nr. 3 Belgien flys for a company
Nr. 4 and Nr. 5 are in the builiding progress
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Old 10th Nov 2013, 20:25
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Extra 500 Nr. 3 Belgien flys for a company
Homebase? Registration? Found nothing on the OO-reg, but of course it could well be N- or D-registered.
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Old 13th Nov 2013, 18:36
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The Belgian one is D-FBRS based in EBCI/Charleroi
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Old 13th Nov 2013, 18:52
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Dank you beaucoup herzlich
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