PPL Training Aircraft

[g_conaty]

I was just wondering if anyone knows if i will be allowed to choose what aircraft i will train in when i begin my training. . .I am starting my PPL at Newcastle Aetro Club UK, and they have a number of Piper Warrior and Piper Cherokee aircraft as well as one Double Engine Beech BE 76 Duchess.. .I would like to train in the Beech aircraft and was wanting to ask whether or not anyone thinks this will be possible.

Thanks

[Golden Monkey]

As it is you who is paying for your training, you will be able to choose what aircraft you would like to learn in, with respective differences in cost.

With the proviso that you will have to start in, and gain your PPL using, a single engined aircraft.

[scroggs]

Conaty. .This forum is for those in the process of gaining their professional licences. You may well be intending to join this band when you have your PPL, but in the interests of minimising Wannabes' use of Pprunes total available bandwidth, would you restrict your PPL questions to the Forum expressly provided for that purpose? That forum is Private Flying - where I've sent all your other posts.

[foxmoth]

Actually Spinspin I don't think there is anything to stop you doing your PPL training in a twin.. .(apart from money and common sense <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> )

[distaff_beancounter]

Prior to JAA, I understood that you could do an inital PPL on a twin, without any prior training on a single. If you were good enough it could have been done in the 45 hours to cover the basic PPL, plus 8 hours for the twin specific stuff, asymmetric flight etc. The licence gained, would have only have allowed the pilot to fly multis, not singles.. .The CAA website, gives details of how to add an MEP class rating to a JAA-PPL(A), but the requirements do not actually appear to state that you need to get an SEP class rating first. However it does state that before you can apply for an MEP class rating, you need "a minimum of 70 hours as pilot-in-command of aeroplanes". Does this mean that you could do all those 70 hours as a student flying a twin solo? If so, with the rest of the dual training for the basic PPL stuff, plus the twin specific training, it should take at least 100 hours total, all of which would have to be done at an FTO. . .So .... say an average cost of at least £200/hour inc VAT, landing fees etc, this PPL will only cost about £20,000 !!! <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

[Rusty Cessna]

Just out of interest,

what is the minimum qualification needed to add a MEP rating to a JAA PPL?

Thanks,. .Rusty

[FNG]

Hey, on this basis, I might as well do my multi rating on that Lightning Maxi Gainza has been flying in "Pilot". With the engines on top of one another, no need to worry about all that assymetric fol de rol. Result! Now, anyone fancy lending me about fifty grand and a fleet of tanker trucks?

[Evo7]

That Lightning would make the 150nm QXC pass rather quickly, too... <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[Keef]

I reckon fifty grand would just about get you to first solo, if you were a particularly adept student.

What a way to go, though!

. .I never got round to doing a PPL-B and certainly ain't going to invest my hard-earned in a JAA multi-engine thingy. Now, where can I get hold of a TBM700 to hire for about £120 an hour?

[Chilli Monster]

Rusty and Flyer Boy

I got my Twin rating under the old rules, which was no restriction on hours. (In fact I managed PPL/IMC/Night and Multi in 100 hours <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> )

I believe now you require either 50 or 75 hours P1 on a single before you can be issued with a twin rating.

So Mr Flyer Boy - look at the Duchess, even drool, but don't even think you'll get your a**e in it for a while <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> And anyway - single flying is more hours for your buck - and when you start it's hours that count.

CM

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[Golden Monkey]

Had a funny feeling I was going to be corrected on that one

*roots around for that winning lottery ticket to gain the Lightning type rating*

[Rusty Cessna]

A lightning type rating! *drools, homer simspon style*

Rusty

[FNG]

Hey Keef, what makes you think it didn't cost me fifty grand to get to first solo? (and that was in a Beagle Pup). Anyway: a Pup's just like a Lightning, really: British, overbuilt, heavy, glugs fuel, expensive tyres, you name it. Apart from a marginal difference in rate of climb, there's little to choose between them. I'm pretty sure that a fueled-up Pup 100 with lardy stude and lardier instructor on board needs about as much runway as a Lightning to get airborne. Right, off to the Transair website to buy some more badges.

[Keef]

Hey FNG - you must be younger than me! My PPL cost me £127-3s-7½d (plus the CAA fee).

If you want some badges, I think I have a few here that might fill the bill. 7-bar epaulettes look fabulous on the Jimjams!