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Old 19th May 2010, 11:08
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Uk Jaa Ppl(a) Exams In Us Based School

Hello everyone,

i am about to leave for the US (Florida) where i will attend an intensive UK JAA PPL(A) course at OFT in Kissimmee.
i studied the last couple of months over the AFE books, using both the AFE Q&A simplifier and Keith Williams perfector.
so far things aren't too bad, i always manage to get more than 80% in all trial tests. The main difficulties for me are in meteo (can't remember all those crappy concepts)

now the question, for those who already attended such a course, aimed to obtain the UK JAA PPL(A):

do these kind of tests (Q&A and perfector) reflect the actual exams?
are they any similar? do you have any advice to give me to best face the training?

sorry for the maybe stupid question, but it is really important to me.
cheers to everyone and have a great time up there
 
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Not sure if you tried it but try and get the PPL Confuser.

It seems to be out of print (can't confirm this though) but I'm sure you can find a copy somewhere.

Invaluable and the questions are along the similar lines to the exams, or at least they were twelve years ago. They have been updated since so I'm sure the sample questions are still of a high standard.

I didn't use the AFE books (I presume these are the Jeremy Pratt books) but instead used the Trevor Thom series. Both series of books are pretty good but the confuser is great for practice exam questions.
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hi mate,

i tried to find the confuser but its nearly impossible to find it, its out of stock because the writer is dead and they are still trying to solve copyrights problems...
looks like keith williams perfector is almost the same.
and yes, AFE are written by Jeremy Pratt.
 
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Not sure how soon you depart for sunny Florida, but if you can - then try to get as many written exams passed HERE before you go.

That way, all you need to worry about whilst you're out there is the flying
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Old 19th May 2010, 13:06
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hi mate,

can't pass exams in UK, i was told so.
OFT representative told me like that when i asked.
you know something different?
thanks mate
 
Old 19th May 2010, 13:08
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sorry,

i forgot to tell...i am italian living in belgium.
 
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You can definitely go to the UK and do the exams there. Since OFT uses the same CAA exam papers, you can simply take the paperwork that shows your "pass" to OFT and they have to accept it.

However, at OFT the first exam attempts are included in the package deal and I can imagine they're not crediting you for the exams you've done already. But if you wanted to do them beforehand you've got to travel to the UK, maybe get a hotel, do the exams at a flight school and pay for them, and then travel back. I would prefer to spend my money and time on something else.

In any case, make sure you're 100% done with studying before you travel to Florida, and try to pass all exams in the first week. If you consistently pass the confuser/perfector/simplifier sample exams with about 80% or more, you should have no problem with the real exams.
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Old 19th May 2010, 13:43
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cheers mate!!

anyone can suggest me a good flight school in the london area?

thanks
 
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In any case, make sure you're 100% done with studying before you travel to Florida, and try to pass all exams in the first week. If you consistently pass the confuser/perfector/simplifier sample exams with about 80% or more, you should have no problem with the real exams.
Agreed.

It's definitely making sure your studying is done before you get to Florida. Otherwise you may find yourself spending a huge amount of your time cramming books when you aren't flying.

do you have any advice to give me to best face the training?
Because you're flying in American airspace, it's worth noting differences between local American procedures and standard ICAO procedures. Then finding out differences between ICAO and Belgium, for example.

Just to illustrate, in the US, a request to transition Class-C and Class-D airspace is implicitly granted upon establishing radio contact unless advised otherwise. In the UK, an explicit clearance is needed. So you must hear the phrase 'Transit approved' or similar. Hearing 'Radar contact' is not sufficient.

It is possible that some of your American instructors would have limited experience of European flying.

Otherwise, all the best and have many great flights!
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Because you're flying in American airspace, it's worth noting differences between local American procedures and standard ICAO procedures. Then finding out differences between ICAO and Belgium, for example.
Agreed, BUT, don't spend any time on this just yet. Simply aviate, navigate and communicate the way your instructor tells you to. When you've eventually got the poo brown wallet with your shiny new PPL back from the CAA at Gatwick, only then spend time with a Belgian instructor to find out the differences.

There's a number of differences that are so subtle that you will only appreciate them once you've got the experience that comes with obtaining a PPL.
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Old 19th May 2010, 15:16
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Hi,

I got back from FL two months ago . If you have time to pass the exams in the UK do so first, or as Backpacker and Destinationsky wrote, try to do them all in the first week - but that is quite heavy if you start flying at the same time.
Very important is also the TSA clearance ; if you can get the fingerprints cleared before going you won't be wasting the bucks as twice this year there have been serious delays ; once due to weather and national holidays, and recently for some internal security issues.
Now, to come back to the exams, in some schools you won't be charged if you already have them ; I prefer this kind of fair approach instead of the "all in one but please do not read the fine print" type of package.
Interestingly, at EFT where I trained, there were students w/ AFE books, and others with the Trevor Thom series. No preference was given for either series. Those w/ the AFE series were very good at most exams except meteorology ; while those w/ the Trevor Thom books definitely passed the meteorology exam with much higher scores.

As for the question-banks the "confuser" is very good, try to get hold of one as it will help you. Besides that Oxford Aviation Academy has a good interactive DVD and then there is also airquiz.com.

Good luck to you!
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