Cessna 172S POH wrong!
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And Beech Bonanza series....
My BE36 will carry 5 POB (170lbs) and slightly less than full fuel. A BE33 or BE35 will be limited by CG issues (aft limit exceeded when fuel burns off). You have to check and work out the W&B calculations for each individual aircraft. An older BE36 such as mine is a lot lighter than current production BE36.
I know of at least two very fatal accidents in this country in the last 12 months that were due to CofG issues. Handle with care.
My BE36 will carry 5 POB (170lbs) and slightly less than full fuel. A BE33 or BE35 will be limited by CG issues (aft limit exceeded when fuel burns off). You have to check and work out the W&B calculations for each individual aircraft. An older BE36 such as mine is a lot lighter than current production BE36.
I know of at least two very fatal accidents in this country in the last 12 months that were due to CofG issues. Handle with care.
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I know of at least two very fatal accidents in this country in the last 12 months that were due to CofG issues. Handle with care.
All aircraft are susceptible to CofG, and weight and balance shift issues. I agree the Bonanzas must be treated with knowledge and care, and that each aeroplane can be very individual, mods etc, however, my N35, will take 4, full fuel, and get to my destination at 155kts.
The original poster stated
In any case - three guys and full fuel in any SEP is going to be marginal unless this is a group of jockeys flying to their next race!
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OK, I should probably have said 4-seater SEPs; as I was replying to someone writing about a 172 I thought this was pretty obvious.... I did like the AN-2 comment, though
Back to the original issue - I have now checked a third POH, in this case a 1980/172N which I haven't flown in years, didn't even know I still had the POH. Drum roll - the figures are correct.
Back to the original issue - I have now checked a third POH, in this case a 1980/172N which I haven't flown in years, didn't even know I still had the POH. Drum roll - the figures are correct.
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From: Oz
Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever
Andy P
It is the operators responsibility to keep the POH up to date. Cessna fixed this problem in the 2006 revision so you should be asking the owner/operator of the aircraft why he she is not keeping the POH up.
It is the operators responsibility to keep the POH up to date. Cessna fixed this problem in the 2006 revision so you should be asking the owner/operator of the aircraft why he she is not keeping the POH up.
Yet another lesson for the noob, the POH in the aircraft is always the reference to use. I have been learning all the numbers from the PDF versions that are published online. Will have to find a day when the aircraft a free and go and take some notes.
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Never forget, that this is the nation of eminent scientists and engineers, that lost a VERY expensive satellite in space, when they f*cked up metric and imperial measurements!! 
CNN - Metric mishap caused loss of NASA orbiter - September 30, 1999
CNN - Metric mishap caused loss of NASA orbiter - September 30, 1999
