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Old 8th Dec 2009, 08:22
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most of whom can't accept that this is a part of Britain where the first language is not English.
The most convenient source of statistics to hand is a survey published by the Welsh Office, Arolwg Cymdeithasol Cymru 1992: adroddiad ar y Gymraeg published about March 1995. It showed that 21.5% of the population of Wales (590800 people) speak Welsh; this divides into 32.4% of 3-15 year olds, 17.8% of 16-29s, 16.7% of 30-44s, 18.7% of 45-64s and 24.2% of over 65s. 55.3% of them (326600, 12% of the population) are first-language speakers, meaning someone who spoke more Welsh than English as a child at home. 13.4% of the population of Wales claims to be fluent in Welsh, and 66.1% claim no knowledge of Welsh at all.

So the main language in Wales is English, and the minority speak Welsh.
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Maybe we'll all have to speak Cornish next time we fly to Bodmin.
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Yew ol buoys had be'rre look owt next tym yewre in norrrfolk!
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Hatz, say again......
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Fishbang, how's your Gaelic?
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Have you noticed most of the ready meals from Tesco's have far too much gaellic in them?

( but whats that got to do with flying in France?)

Oh...just twigged!!! They smuvver evryfink in gaellic two!
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Old 8th Dec 2009, 10:46
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Whatever it is that you're on, Hatz, can you tell me how to get some?

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Maybe we'll all have to speak Cornish next time we fly to Bodmin.
Fine, just leave the leather skirts behind.
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I plan to meet up with friends at Quiberon airfield in June. I've read all the posts and I know that Quiberon's AFIS has the notation (FR) on the airfield chart. I know and respect that I should speak French to visit this airfield but all the warnings are not to try and get by with poor schoolboy french and a brush up of RT phrases. I'm not arrogant about speaking english - just sadly incompetent in french.

So, if I take the info as it stands I can't visit this airfield. My friends are staying at the hotel on the airfield boundary and there isn't an alternative airfield.

Quiberon seems to have accommodated several large fly-ins with visitors from all over Europe so it's a bit hard to believe that all the visiting pilots were proficient in french R/T.

Do I stay away and cancel the whole trip or is English tolerated in practice? I've emailed the airfield to ask if I'm welcome but no reply as yet.

Any advice, particularly from anyone who has visited this airfield, would be very much appreciated.
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Old 24th Feb 2010, 07:34
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Hi, flew into Quiberon last summer as part of a Cabair trip. AFIS happily spoke English to us and were very helpful It's a beautiful location - just watch out for the numerous parachutists and jump planes!
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Old 24th Feb 2010, 08:55
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I've had a couple of trips into Quiberon over the years: Always been able to speak English in the circuit.

Interestingly when I googled their website, there has been a subtle change of name of the aeroclub and the website revision dated 2009 no longer has anEnglish or German translation which I am sure there were before.

Menacing sign of the times?

PS While you're there a quick nip across the water to La Baule is a worthwhile trip.

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Old 24th Feb 2010, 09:31
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France is a beautiful country, to bad they have the French living in there.

Learn a second language, basic pillow talk English is not that difficult. 40% of the Belgium's are French, most of them refuse to speak another language, and especially not Flemish who is spoken by the majority of the country, not even our Queen find it needed to speak a few words in Flemish. It has something to do with the 'laziness of the French'. Why do we Flemish people speak 4 and most French only 1 ? Get over with it. The world has changed, people speak English in international affairs, not French. Having a local rule that makes airports French speaking only in 2010 is beyond decency and as you stated yourself, safety limits.

Not only the Brits speak English on their RT. If the French are really concerned about the safety aspect they would do like almost everybody in the world does: speak English while radio communicating in the air.

It's not the British arrogance, it's the French arrogance.
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Neilgeddes and Cusco,

Your advice is much appreciated. Thanks to you the whole trip is back on!
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Its dead easy to get the french to speak english.....

Just start the conversation in German and they very quickly swap to English and by then they have played there cards and can't then play the I can't speak english pish they so love to do.
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On the basis of I would never go anywhere that they would let me go, I may go to Quiberon too !
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