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Hangar 3 themselves have nothing to do with flying schools, there was a company in there called ventbrook, who rented a space to operate, when DA went into a bit of a demise, ventbrook decided to up end out of hangar 3 and set up in the DA Hangar. Bit of a big hangar to be taking on in this financial climate, unless you have the customers, Good Luck to them.
Hangar 3 themselves have nothing to do with flying schools, there was a company in there called ventbrook, who rented a space to operate, when DA went into a bit of a demise, ventbrook decided to up end out of hangar 3 and set up in the DA Hangar. Bit of a big hangar to be taking on in this financial climate, unless you have the customers, Good Luck to them.
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I can confirm that Ventbrook Air Ltd have moved in to the old helicentre hangar at Blackpool.
I will stress we have NOT taken over DA we are leasing the hangar and remain an independent company.
Any former students of DA are welcome to come into the Hangar to discuss with us if they wish to continue their PPL(h) cse. We will discuss in person or over the phone if you are trying to recover money from DA which you have in your flying account.
This is no means a guarantee that you will get your money back but we can point you in the right direction
0800 917 6666 or [email protected]
I will stress we have NOT taken over DA we are leasing the hangar and remain an independent company.
Any former students of DA are welcome to come into the Hangar to discuss with us if they wish to continue their PPL(h) cse. We will discuss in person or over the phone if you are trying to recover money from DA which you have in your flying account.
This is no means a guarantee that you will get your money back but we can point you in the right direction
0800 917 6666 or [email protected]
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Companies House holds full details of company directors etc as a matter of public record - it is also possible to trace other companies which directors are associated with. Small charge for some info, strangely internet access to info is only available during office hours 
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Helicopter Flight Training EGNH
As an experienced Instuctor the sooner investors make their exit from training schools at Blackpool the better. All they want is to take well earned money from students. Yes aviation needs money but what it needs too are people who know what they are doing and who are passionate about what they do. I only hope those who were unfortunate to have contact with these types of people around this airfield go on to succeed in whatever they do next. Aviation needs good pilots, not investors who want to make money at the expense of these good people.
I myself learnt the hard way with the helicentre at Blackpool and that cost good money. I now fly for a school based at Hangar 3 DC Aviation KEEP GOING DON'T GIVE UP.
I myself learnt the hard way with the helicentre at Blackpool and that cost good money. I now fly for a school based at Hangar 3 DC Aviation KEEP GOING DON'T GIVE UP.
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Companies Investigation Branch
If anyone wants to report any of the disley companies to the CIB for their activities then go to:
CIB Complaint Form
It is anonymous, takes only a minute and if enough people who lost money put in a complaint they may be investigated.
CIB Complaint Form
It is anonymous, takes only a minute and if enough people who lost money put in a complaint they may be investigated.
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Someone did on the Flyer forum. You can google it and see.
Looks like CFS staff not been paid again, or the fuel supplier & maintenance company. Feel sorry for them
Looks like CFS staff not been paid again, or the fuel supplier & maintenance company. Feel sorry for them
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Check Flyer forum- says there is a new flying school starting up at DTV soon. Anyone here got any more info?
Also anyone know why the forums on FLYER related to Flyteam and Cleveland/Disley have been removed for what i can tell?
Also anyone know why the forums on FLYER related to Flyteam and Cleveland/Disley have been removed for what i can tell?
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an aquaintance warned me about disley even b4 he bought CFS. I hadn't heard of him, but his reputation preceded him.
He should be disqualified from being a director in any company
He should be disqualified from being a director in any company
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Disley Speaks
The following statement can be seen on FTN website. Thought I would place it here as any comments by those caught up in all this hopefully welcome on this enlightened forum unlike some others. As I said before, not sure what planet this is from. Must be a parrallel universe where eveything in Disley World is someone elses fault.
"My name is Jonathan Disley, and I am the director of Disley Aviation.
Although I have previously refrained from acknowledging any of the ever-changing comments and rumours, circulating on the “Aviation Grape Vine”, I now feel that considering the way these negative comments and rumours have affected the reputation and credibility of Disley Aviation, it’s time to set the record straight.
Disley Aviation was formed in 2008, to provide the public with an “Affordable Air Taxi Service”, effectively bringing the “Easy Jet” to the charter service, by making it affordable for everyone to use.
We looked at many companies in 2008 and decided to buy about half a dozen, some of these purchases failed through our own due diligence, where we discovered that they was not quite what they were initially marketed as.
However, others we succeeded in buying and the first company to come onboard was Cleveland Flying School, which we purchased from Northern Aviation. Cleveland Flying School, based at Durham Tees Valley airport was a successful business that had been trading for many years.
When Disley Aviation was initially formed, we could have never anticipated that we would hit a “Brick Wall” within the aviation world. This together with the collapse of the world’s economy made the market place a difficult place to trade in.
We started to purchase the companies back in September and October 2008 and we were much unprepared for the actual catastrophic events that would follow over the next few months, Events that would ultimately affect and deny the available opportunities to the executive traveller, who were to be Disley Aviations main stay of business.
When we bought Cleveland Flying School from Northern Aviation we believed we had completed our full due diligence, unfortunately as it turned out there were issues coming out of the wood work on a daily basis, but nothing we couldn’t handle and we continued to strive.
This continued until we lost the Leeds University contract, which was a direct result of important information Northern Aviation decided to withhold from the university and was at no fault of our own and this affected greatly on the business of Cleveland Flying School.
The second hiccup occurred earlier this year when Northern Aviation went into liquidation. Given the fact that Northern Aviation had owned Cleveland Flying School for so many years, a large number of its creditors along with members of the public actually believed that Cleveland Flying School and Northern Aviation were one of the same company. As no one had been aware of any impending sale prior to its completion, these people doubted the sincerity of our purchase.
As a result, creditors started chasing Cleveland Flying School for Northern Aviation outstanding debts. We received a vast number of accounts invoicing Cleveland Flying School for goods or services provided to Northern Aviation, as well as distressed students who had prepaid flying hours, paid prior to our involvement with Cleveland Flying School, turning up at our offices and demanding refunds.
Given that, Disley Aviation is purely the shareholders of the various companies that were trading; we looked again at Cleveland Flying Schools current situation. After careful consideration, it was decided that as there were so many problems arising, it would be easier to try to settle all the debts and take independent legal action against Northern Aviation and its directors for misrepresentation and fraud and this is still under way.
We honoured all legitimate prepaid members flying hours and the additional costs it incurred, which meant that cash flow was limited at times, however everyone pulled together and as the university had previously been the main source of income for the school, we worked extremely hard and managed to increase sales considerably.
Disley Aviation "
Meanwhile this tiny-minded forum writer will have to stop tapping away for now whilst I clear up the mess from my keyboard
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"My name is Jonathan Disley, and I am the director of Disley Aviation.
Although I have previously refrained from acknowledging any of the ever-changing comments and rumours, circulating on the “Aviation Grape Vine”, I now feel that considering the way these negative comments and rumours have affected the reputation and credibility of Disley Aviation, it’s time to set the record straight.
Disley Aviation was formed in 2008, to provide the public with an “Affordable Air Taxi Service”, effectively bringing the “Easy Jet” to the charter service, by making it affordable for everyone to use.
We looked at many companies in 2008 and decided to buy about half a dozen, some of these purchases failed through our own due diligence, where we discovered that they was not quite what they were initially marketed as.
However, others we succeeded in buying and the first company to come onboard was Cleveland Flying School, which we purchased from Northern Aviation. Cleveland Flying School, based at Durham Tees Valley airport was a successful business that had been trading for many years.
When Disley Aviation was initially formed, we could have never anticipated that we would hit a “Brick Wall” within the aviation world. This together with the collapse of the world’s economy made the market place a difficult place to trade in.
We started to purchase the companies back in September and October 2008 and we were much unprepared for the actual catastrophic events that would follow over the next few months, Events that would ultimately affect and deny the available opportunities to the executive traveller, who were to be Disley Aviations main stay of business.
When we bought Cleveland Flying School from Northern Aviation we believed we had completed our full due diligence, unfortunately as it turned out there were issues coming out of the wood work on a daily basis, but nothing we couldn’t handle and we continued to strive.
This continued until we lost the Leeds University contract, which was a direct result of important information Northern Aviation decided to withhold from the university and was at no fault of our own and this affected greatly on the business of Cleveland Flying School.
The second hiccup occurred earlier this year when Northern Aviation went into liquidation. Given the fact that Northern Aviation had owned Cleveland Flying School for so many years, a large number of its creditors along with members of the public actually believed that Cleveland Flying School and Northern Aviation were one of the same company. As no one had been aware of any impending sale prior to its completion, these people doubted the sincerity of our purchase.
As a result, creditors started chasing Cleveland Flying School for Northern Aviation outstanding debts. We received a vast number of accounts invoicing Cleveland Flying School for goods or services provided to Northern Aviation, as well as distressed students who had prepaid flying hours, paid prior to our involvement with Cleveland Flying School, turning up at our offices and demanding refunds.
Given that, Disley Aviation is purely the shareholders of the various companies that were trading; we looked again at Cleveland Flying Schools current situation. After careful consideration, it was decided that as there were so many problems arising, it would be easier to try to settle all the debts and take independent legal action against Northern Aviation and its directors for misrepresentation and fraud and this is still under way.
We honoured all legitimate prepaid members flying hours and the additional costs it incurred, which meant that cash flow was limited at times, however everyone pulled together and as the university had previously been the main source of income for the school, we worked extremely hard and managed to increase sales considerably.
“A huge step in the right direction.”
A man, who had “Tried” to purchase Cleveland Flying School prior to us taking over, came forward and expressed an interest, whichresulted in a firm offer and unfortunately, we naively allowed him full access to all areas and information.
Despite his presence everyday at the flying school and his grand gestures and overtures to its staff and customers alike, it soon became very apparent after several weeks had passed that he did not have any intention of purchasing Cleveland Flying School. I do not wish to comment further on this matter at this time although I strongly believe these actions have been instrumental in current situation at Cleveland Flying School and our legal team is currently addressing this matter directly with him.
Cleveland Flying School still belongs to Disley Aviation, as it is the main shareholder and purchaser of the company’s assets. Cleveland Flying School has no liabilities and any third party finances relating to aircraft were paid off in full. Any outstanding creditors have been or are in the process of being paid and I wish to state that contrary to any rumours circulating, Cleveland Flying School has not, nor will be put into administration. The school will remain closed until we find a suitable buyer or use for the premises. Once we have completed full due diligence on any prospective buyer, only then will we make a public announcement to that effect.
Flyteam Aviation, based at Elstree Aerodrome was one of the other companies that we were involved with. This was solely purchased by a franchise member because of its location, along with its additional airfield base at Cranfield. Our involvement with Flyteam was that we hired them the use of the aircraft under a franchise facility, which we later withdrew when it came apparent that the management and owners of Flyteam were not fulfilling their requirement to creditors
Buying and franchising small flying schools would give Disley Aviation a presence on key airport locations, allowing us various, drop off and pick up points.
The flying schools would have covered the costs and offered us a free infrastructure, which would have ensured that all monies made by the air taxi service would have been profit. This was Disley Aviations key to success by ensuring that we could afford to be cheap and cheerful, again, bringing the “Easy Jet” into the charter service.
Furthermore, we also secured a site based out of Biggin Hill airport and it seemed a very simple operation. We would take over a new lease, which would finance itself with hangarage and its current insitu tenants, and allow us to operate out of the premises with the charter service.
In exchange, I paid a very handsome deposit, but even after a few weeks, it was apparent that the reality was a very different picture from what it had been painted and the business was obviously struggling.
As the lease had not been signed at this point, it was by mutual agreement of both parties not to proceed any further.
Finally, moving on to Helicentre Blackpool, an established heli-port and flying school we purchased early this year. We have recently leased out these premises to Ventbrook Air, from which they are currently operating their heli training school and I wish them every success in their future operations.
I ventured into this business without any knowledge of the aviation industry, all I know is that I am first and foremost a businessman and my vision was a very real and achievable goal. A vision I was willing to and did heavily invest in, to try to make it happen.
What I had not bargained for was the small-minded rigidness of the aviation world. A world that seems quite happy to talk the talk and instead of embracing the exciting opportunities and concepts I could have brought and change the way of general aviation. Achievable, by us joining forces and working together to provide a cheap affordable service and in turn giving the bigger fish a serious run for their money.
Instead, I was greeted with that brick wall, “a wall of obstructive people”, who’s only contribution to aviation has been to treat it like a hobby and bemoan about it.
It seems to me, that a large majority of the people, who occupy the current world of general aviation, should save their passion for what they are truly good at, gossiping and tapping away on their tiny-minded forums, and make way for the much more exciting, younger blood and investment.
Jonathan DisleyDespite his presence everyday at the flying school and his grand gestures and overtures to its staff and customers alike, it soon became very apparent after several weeks had passed that he did not have any intention of purchasing Cleveland Flying School. I do not wish to comment further on this matter at this time although I strongly believe these actions have been instrumental in current situation at Cleveland Flying School and our legal team is currently addressing this matter directly with him.
Cleveland Flying School still belongs to Disley Aviation, as it is the main shareholder and purchaser of the company’s assets. Cleveland Flying School has no liabilities and any third party finances relating to aircraft were paid off in full. Any outstanding creditors have been or are in the process of being paid and I wish to state that contrary to any rumours circulating, Cleveland Flying School has not, nor will be put into administration. The school will remain closed until we find a suitable buyer or use for the premises. Once we have completed full due diligence on any prospective buyer, only then will we make a public announcement to that effect.
Flyteam Aviation, based at Elstree Aerodrome was one of the other companies that we were involved with. This was solely purchased by a franchise member because of its location, along with its additional airfield base at Cranfield. Our involvement with Flyteam was that we hired them the use of the aircraft under a franchise facility, which we later withdrew when it came apparent that the management and owners of Flyteam were not fulfilling their requirement to creditors
Buying and franchising small flying schools would give Disley Aviation a presence on key airport locations, allowing us various, drop off and pick up points.
The flying schools would have covered the costs and offered us a free infrastructure, which would have ensured that all monies made by the air taxi service would have been profit. This was Disley Aviations key to success by ensuring that we could afford to be cheap and cheerful, again, bringing the “Easy Jet” into the charter service.
Furthermore, we also secured a site based out of Biggin Hill airport and it seemed a very simple operation. We would take over a new lease, which would finance itself with hangarage and its current insitu tenants, and allow us to operate out of the premises with the charter service.
In exchange, I paid a very handsome deposit, but even after a few weeks, it was apparent that the reality was a very different picture from what it had been painted and the business was obviously struggling.
As the lease had not been signed at this point, it was by mutual agreement of both parties not to proceed any further.
Finally, moving on to Helicentre Blackpool, an established heli-port and flying school we purchased early this year. We have recently leased out these premises to Ventbrook Air, from which they are currently operating their heli training school and I wish them every success in their future operations.
I ventured into this business without any knowledge of the aviation industry, all I know is that I am first and foremost a businessman and my vision was a very real and achievable goal. A vision I was willing to and did heavily invest in, to try to make it happen.
What I had not bargained for was the small-minded rigidness of the aviation world. A world that seems quite happy to talk the talk and instead of embracing the exciting opportunities and concepts I could have brought and change the way of general aviation. Achievable, by us joining forces and working together to provide a cheap affordable service and in turn giving the bigger fish a serious run for their money.
Instead, I was greeted with that brick wall, “a wall of obstructive people”, who’s only contribution to aviation has been to treat it like a hobby and bemoan about it.
It seems to me, that a large majority of the people, who occupy the current world of general aviation, should save their passion for what they are truly good at, gossiping and tapping away on their tiny-minded forums, and make way for the much more exciting, younger blood and investment.
Disley Aviation "
Meanwhile this tiny-minded forum writer will have to stop tapping away for now whilst I clear up the mess from my keyboard
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Our involvement with Flyteam was that we hired them the use of the aircraft under a franchise facility, which we later withdrew when it came apparent that the management and owners of Flyteam were not fulfilling their requirement to creditors
Intresting.
If Flyteam just hired an aircraft why ALL aircraft gone as well all instructors and office equipment. Yet all the Disley Aviation signes are still there.
Intresting.
If Flyteam just hired an aircraft why ALL aircraft gone as well all instructors and office equipment. Yet all the Disley Aviation signes are still there.
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What a load of tosh.....A clause in the lease meant that selling CFS would put Leeds University back up for tender which is why they lost the contract....therefore, Disley knew that Leeds wouldnt be part of the operations...as for Northern going bust....if he purchased Cleveland as a separate company, then they would be separate companies and would have no bearing on CFS.
Also if CFS is not in administration then why is their aircraft all but gone!!!
I dont believe a word...the guy is a CROOK and should be avoided at all costs. Not one person (as far as I can see) has a good word to say about him. good riddance to bad rubbish IMO
Also if CFS is not in administration then why is their aircraft all but gone!!!
I dont believe a word...the guy is a CROOK and should be avoided at all costs. Not one person (as far as I can see) has a good word to say about him. good riddance to bad rubbish IMO
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Can you post a link to the FTN web site please?
We need Mr Disley to be more specific about Flyteam by telling us who actually owns and manages it now & when he withdrew the franchise facility (whatever that means) and how we can get in touch with them.
We need Mr Disley to be more specific about Flyteam by telling us who actually owns and manages it now & when he withdrew the franchise facility (whatever that means) and how we can get in touch with them.
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As Mr Disley has called many 'tiny minded', shall we sue for defamation of character? If it's good for the goose etc.....
Mr Disley needs to take a long good look at himself and his history and work out why his adventure into aviation failed.
Mr Disley needs to take a long good look at himself and his history and work out why his adventure into aviation failed.