PPL training /SFH in South Africa
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Loads of 'ifs' and 'buts' with this matter, and a lot of it depends on what you want out of it afterwards. I did my PPL in SA last year, and I'm going back in May to do some more flying. Email me if I can help with any info - it may also be worth doing a search in the Wannabes and African Aviation forum as well as this one. . .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .AB
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To Grim Reaper 14 and Areo Batfink 14.. .. .Cheers for the feedback , and i would like to remain in contact with you with regards to this matter and your experience would be appreciated.. .. .Your e-mails are not present but if you wouldnt mind me getting in touch my e-mail is : [email protected]. .. .Please get in touch!. .. .Daydreamer. .. .PS which flight school did you go to AreoBatfink and what are the ifs and buts?
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Flying in SA
If you want to go flying in South Africa, does the SA CAA issue a licence based upon your foreign licence? In particular are ratings carried across, ie. ME and IR from say an FAA PPL?
I'm thinking of heading down that way later this year, went a few years back, before I was an aviator and loved it (I remember paying 2½ rand for a beer in a pub, and this was when there was 6 rand to the pound. Now its nearer 10 isn't it?)
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I'm thinking of heading down that way later this year, went a few years back, before I was an aviator and loved it (I remember paying 2½ rand for a beer in a pub, and this was when there was 6 rand to the pound. Now its nearer 10 isn't it?)
Cheers
EA
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Recently back from getting a validation and renting at Algoa in Port Elizabeth -
www.algoafc.co.za
excellent place generally, (and socially), good aircraft, great weather and even better, extremely efficient at organising UK-SA validation paperwork in advance so it can be finished off quickly on arrival. I was completely legal and flying off by next lunchtime after arrival one afternoon !
Send them an email - I'm sure the address will be on that site and they know all the rules and regs - they have an expert.
www.algoafc.co.za
excellent place generally, (and socially), good aircraft, great weather and even better, extremely efficient at organising UK-SA validation paperwork in advance so it can be finished off quickly on arrival. I was completely legal and flying off by next lunchtime after arrival one afternoon !
Send them an email - I'm sure the address will be on that site and they know all the rules and regs - they have an expert.
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Thanks bornair, that'd be great. I am not sure exactly when I'd be heading down your way, though probably just after the summer here....
Do you fly from Cape Town? If so where from and roughly how much do you pay for aircraft hire, (singles / twin). I'd be interested to know whether the SA CAA will issue me a multi rating based on my FAA ME, and what the requirements for ME rental would be.
I spent some time down in Cape Town in '96, I was working on a seismic survey ship and we were in dry dock for a month. Actually working is the wrong word, it was a month long ****-up. Fantastic place, beautiful beaches, excellent people and I can't wait to come back.
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Do you fly from Cape Town? If so where from and roughly how much do you pay for aircraft hire, (singles / twin). I'd be interested to know whether the SA CAA will issue me a multi rating based on my FAA ME, and what the requirements for ME rental would be.
I spent some time down in Cape Town in '96, I was working on a seismic survey ship and we were in dry dock for a month. Actually working is the wrong word, it was a month long ****-up. Fantastic place, beautiful beaches, excellent people and I can't wait to come back.
Cheers
EA
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Hi,
I am in the middle of validating my UK licence at the moment in Cape Town.
You need to
convert your radio licence - about 30R
Pass an open book airlaw exam
Pass a flying test involving the usual stuff plus a cross country element
Fill out and send the form to Pretoria.
I am doing all this with Delta 200 at Cape Town Intl Airport.
Very friendly outfit with Cessna 150 at about £35/hr.
Hope this helps
I am in the middle of validating my UK licence at the moment in Cape Town.
You need to
convert your radio licence - about 30R
Pass an open book airlaw exam
Pass a flying test involving the usual stuff plus a cross country element
Fill out and send the form to Pretoria.
I am doing all this with Delta 200 at Cape Town Intl Airport.
Very friendly outfit with Cessna 150 at about £35/hr.
Hope this helps
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Hi EA,
You can fly from Cape Town or Stellenbosch and the rates are about GBP35 per hour for a Piper Warrior or GBP75 for a Piper Aztec. To validate your licence, you will need to do an open book air law test, flying skills and navigation test as mentioned by "invalid entry". The costs excluding aircraft and instructor are about GBP2 for the radio licence, GBP20 for CAA validation and GBP7 for the licence. There could be a small charge for some ground briefing. Hope that helps and let me know when you are coming to Cape Town and I will organise it for you.
Cheers
You can fly from Cape Town or Stellenbosch and the rates are about GBP35 per hour for a Piper Warrior or GBP75 for a Piper Aztec. To validate your licence, you will need to do an open book air law test, flying skills and navigation test as mentioned by "invalid entry". The costs excluding aircraft and instructor are about GBP2 for the radio licence, GBP20 for CAA validation and GBP7 for the licence. There could be a small charge for some ground briefing. Hope that helps and let me know when you are coming to Cape Town and I will organise it for you.
Cheers
Some more money for Capt PPRuNe
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There's an interesting write up in May 2002 Pilot magazine where someone describes their holiday flying in SA. The licencing logistics are fairly well covered by it. Let me know if you would like me to email it to you.
Fujiflyer
There's an interesting write up in May 2002 Pilot magazine where someone describes their holiday flying in SA. The licencing logistics are fairly well covered by it. Let me know if you would like me to email it to you.
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Hi Fuji,
I'd be grateful if you could email it if its not too much trouble.
Cheers
EA
[email protected]
I'd be grateful if you could email it if its not too much trouble.
Cheers
EA
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Hi englishal
I'll try and do it tonight, when I get back from Shoreham. Its about 4 - 5 pages so expect a download of a few MB
Fujiflyer
I'll try and do it tonight, when I get back from Shoreham. Its about 4 - 5 pages so expect a download of a few MB
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Hour Building in South Africa ?
Anybody know anything about building hours in south africa?
Like which schools and what the rates are like? (esp twin rates). I'm looking to build up twin hours from the measly 20 that I currently have.
any info appreciated
thanks
Flem
Like which schools and what the rates are like? (esp twin rates). I'm looking to build up twin hours from the measly 20 that I currently have.
any info appreciated
thanks
Flem
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I have seen advertisements for "cape flying" which offer 350 loggable twin/turbine hrs, at what cost I don't know. You will see the advert at the back of most mags.
Also worth a gander is "phoebus" who operate a DC-3, wow my favourite plane I would certainly invest in hours on that.
Also worth a gander is "phoebus" who operate a DC-3, wow my favourite plane I would certainly invest in hours on that.
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Hours building
Perhaps a little off topic, but I wonder if anyone can advise me.
I'm looking at starting training this autumn and have been searching here for the options. There's certainly a wealth of data if you use the search function. What I'm not sure about is the validity of the do-it-yourself modular approach. A couple of friends of my father who are pilots have given me conflicting advice; both seem logical to me.
On the one hand, I'm told to save money, use the modular route and build my hours as cheaply as possible cause at the end of the day an airline will be assessing me & my performance in training (e.g. 1st time passes etc.) & not how I got my licence.
On the other, I'm told either go integrated, or do a structured modular course, because its easy to waste the 150 hours "drilling holes in the sky" (I loved that phrase!).
The latter advice seems logical. I've seem some ads for hours building (especially in the States) that emphasise how you can spend hours & hours doing long solo cross-countries. Probably cheap, but I have not learnt at the same rate on the little solo flying I've done. It's important, and certainly has given me great confidence, but I think 100 hours of it will be a waste of time. Sort of negates the modular route though.
What do you think?
I'm looking at starting training this autumn and have been searching here for the options. There's certainly a wealth of data if you use the search function. What I'm not sure about is the validity of the do-it-yourself modular approach. A couple of friends of my father who are pilots have given me conflicting advice; both seem logical to me.
On the one hand, I'm told to save money, use the modular route and build my hours as cheaply as possible cause at the end of the day an airline will be assessing me & my performance in training (e.g. 1st time passes etc.) & not how I got my licence.
On the other, I'm told either go integrated, or do a structured modular course, because its easy to waste the 150 hours "drilling holes in the sky" (I loved that phrase!).
The latter advice seems logical. I've seem some ads for hours building (especially in the States) that emphasise how you can spend hours & hours doing long solo cross-countries. Probably cheap, but I have not learnt at the same rate on the little solo flying I've done. It's important, and certainly has given me great confidence, but I think 100 hours of it will be a waste of time. Sort of negates the modular route though.
What do you think?