RT Practical exam
Surely the only controlled airspace a PPL will encounter is class D or E? Or is there something else lurking in the practical exam?
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The RT Practical dosn't require flight subject to IFR. In all cases the pilot qualification will be a PPL with no additional ratings. You may be required to transit Class A Controlled Airspace. VFR flight is not available in Class 'A', true. Why do you believe that SVFR transits only apply "in special circumstances"?
In the UK it is true that SVFR flight is not permitted in 'Airways. However, such a restriction is not applied to other forms of Class 'A'.
The RT Practical dosn't require flight subject to IFR. In all cases the pilot qualification will be a PPL with no additional ratings. You may be required to transit Class A Controlled Airspace. VFR flight is not available in Class 'A', true. Why do you believe that SVFR transits only apply "in special circumstances"?
In the UK it is true that SVFR flight is not permitted in 'Airways. However, such a restriction is not applied to other forms of Class 'A'.
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The RT Licence entitles you to operate the radio station in any aircraft, it is not confined to the privileges of a PPL!
"in special circumstances"
plan a flight from your home base to Jersey
Thanks for the replies, just trying to get a feel for what is involved here
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Safety Sense Leaflet 22b
Then read this:http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/ga_srg_07webSSL22.pdf
Page 11:
- LARS is available from Marham but he doesn't use it (just requests a FIS).Strange since on page 10 it says LARS is available over much of the route and it would be a shame not to use it......
- Marham asks him to report passing Chatteris but before he does this he changes to Cambridge, which is well off track, for VDF. Is this just for practice as he is not actually tracking anywhere near Cambridge? Or to confirm his general position south of Chatteris?
Page 12:
- Assume he talks to Wyton since he is passing over their ATZ (good airmanship?)
- From Wyton he requests a FIS and then (in his response to "pass your message") he requests a RIS. Assume this is a typo as RIS is not available from Wyton.
- He is asked to report passing Alconbury - surely "G-ON passing Alconbury" would be sufficient rather than the full position report ("P T L E") he gives in his repsonse? Or once again, is this just for practice?
- On his initial call to Cottesmore he requests MATZ penetration, however in his response to "pass your message" he adds RIS and Barnsley QNH to his request. Would Barnsley QNH not be passed to him as a matter of course since he reports altitude based on Chatham and is fast approaching an ASR boundary?
- Assume requests to report passing Oundle and Oakham are equivalent to reporting entering and leaving the CMATZ.
- East Midlands approach/radar is now 134.175?
- In his initial call to East Midlands he doesn't "request join" & they don't ask him to "pass your message".
Please keep any replies as constructive as possible , I'm new to a lot of this & trying to come up a steep learning curve
Excuse the pre-ATSOCAS terminology used above, this is what is used in the leaflet.
LARS is available over much of the route and it would be a shame not to use it......
surely "G-ON passing Alconbury" would be sufficient rather than the full position report
I suggest you read he syllabus, App A http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/Sectio...%20(FRTOL).pdf look at this form http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/FORSRG1171.PDF which shows the training you should have received and then decide if the money would be well spent.
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LARS provided 3 services RIS, RAS and FIS, he used FIS, so he did use it!
One of the requirements of the test is that you demonstrate a full position report!
Thanks for the reply and for the links
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FIS v RIS
Or as we all know Basic v Traffic.
The normal thing when flying VFR is see and be seen. A good lookout should be everyones aim.
If every pilot requested A 'Traffic' or 'Deconfliction' service it would be impossible to provide. The controller is limited to the maximum number of flights that they may accept for a service. Deconfliction being the most limiting although you must be flying in accordance with IFR to obtain a Deconfliction service. There is then a responsibility upon the pilot to request the most appropiate service for the flight conditions. Hopefully a controller may be reading this thread and provide the actual parameters in this regard.
The normal thing when flying VFR is see and be seen. A good lookout should be everyones aim.
If every pilot requested A 'Traffic' or 'Deconfliction' service it would be impossible to provide. The controller is limited to the maximum number of flights that they may accept for a service. Deconfliction being the most limiting although you must be flying in accordance with IFR to obtain a Deconfliction service. There is then a responsibility upon the pilot to request the most appropiate service for the flight conditions. Hopefully a controller may be reading this thread and provide the actual parameters in this regard.
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AFAIK DS, unlike RAS, is available under any flight rules, which I suppose emphasises your point.
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Thanks again for the help.
Was offered a full day of one to one practical tuition with the course organiser for half the cost of the full 3-day course Jumped at the chance of course.
Passed both the written and practical exams at Belfast Flying Club this morning
Was offered a full day of one to one practical tuition with the course organiser for half the cost of the full 3-day course Jumped at the chance of course.
Passed both the written and practical exams at Belfast Flying Club this morning
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plan a flight from your home base to Jersey
SVFR clearance or nothing then?
plan a flight from your home base to Jersey
SVFR clearance or nothing then?
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The Communication exam is the exam but sometimes people call it the RT written exam. There is only the one exam. The Communication exam is one of the 7 written exams required for the PPL. The PPL student then takes the RT Practical to also have the FRTOL issued.
Those requiring only a FRTOL are required to take the same Communication Exam and pass the RT Practical Test.
Those requiring only a FRTOL are required to take the same Communication Exam and pass the RT Practical Test.