FAA 61.75 'English Proficiency'
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FAA 61.75 'English Proficiency'
Fo infomation of 61.75 'piggyback' licence holders.
I have been trying for some to comply with FAA ruling regarding the requirement to have my FAA CPL/IR re-issued for the English Proficiency statement by 9/3/2009.
Although informed by New York FAA office that a this could be carried out by a US DPE based in UK, the Oklahoma Foreign Licence Validation dept do not appear to accept this.
I am visiting USA for business reasons in the near future , and as soon as I requested re-issue through a personal visit to USA office I promptly received my papework from Oklahoma .
It does appear that FAA are sticking to the personal visit ruling for UK licence holders.
Unless AOPA etc. can get some sort of alleviation,from FAA ,there will be a few invalid 61.75 licences after 9/3.
No criticisim of FAA intended ,as could not see our CAA allowing such an arrangment at all.
I have been trying for some to comply with FAA ruling regarding the requirement to have my FAA CPL/IR re-issued for the English Proficiency statement by 9/3/2009.
Although informed by New York FAA office that a this could be carried out by a US DPE based in UK, the Oklahoma Foreign Licence Validation dept do not appear to accept this.
I am visiting USA for business reasons in the near future , and as soon as I requested re-issue through a personal visit to USA office I promptly received my papework from Oklahoma .
It does appear that FAA are sticking to the personal visit ruling for UK licence holders.
Unless AOPA etc. can get some sort of alleviation,from FAA ,there will be a few invalid 61.75 licences after 9/3.
No criticisim of FAA intended ,as could not see our CAA allowing such an arrangment at all.
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Er!, if you have a CPL then it is not based on and you can sign in and pay your 2$ on line and they will send out a new certificate. No visit to a DPE or FSDO required.
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BOSE X is absolutely right. There has been much confusion over this.
If you have a standalone FAA licence (any licence PPL, CPL, ATP - doesn't matter) you can log onto the FAA website, pay $2 with your credit card and a new plastic licence will appear in the post shortly thereafter bearing the necessary 'English Proficiency' statement.
If however you have a 61.75 FAA licence (ie. one given to you on the basis of a foreign licence as opposed to one you got having passed an FAA written exam and an FAA flight test) then it is more complex.
You can either:
1) Do what I think Bose X did with his, go to the States and present yourself at a FSDO (having first made an appointment and ALSO had your UK JAA licence verified by the CAA) whereupon they will issue you with a replacement licence FOR FREE or
2) Track down the FAA DPE who operates in Europe and he / she can (apparently) issue you with a new licence. I added apparently because there appears to be some confusion as to whether he / she can. If they can, then they will be allowed to charge for the licence issue.
I saw a return flight from London to Vegas advertised on the web for just £260 a few days ago. Rather than spend money on petrol driving to find this DPE, then paying for him to issue a new licence, why not spend a little more and combine sorting your licence out with a long weekend in the Las Vegas sunshine :-)
If you have a standalone FAA licence (any licence PPL, CPL, ATP - doesn't matter) you can log onto the FAA website, pay $2 with your credit card and a new plastic licence will appear in the post shortly thereafter bearing the necessary 'English Proficiency' statement.
If however you have a 61.75 FAA licence (ie. one given to you on the basis of a foreign licence as opposed to one you got having passed an FAA written exam and an FAA flight test) then it is more complex.
You can either:
1) Do what I think Bose X did with his, go to the States and present yourself at a FSDO (having first made an appointment and ALSO had your UK JAA licence verified by the CAA) whereupon they will issue you with a replacement licence FOR FREE or
2) Track down the FAA DPE who operates in Europe and he / she can (apparently) issue you with a new licence. I added apparently because there appears to be some confusion as to whether he / she can. If they can, then they will be allowed to charge for the licence issue.
I saw a return flight from London to Vegas advertised on the web for just £260 a few days ago. Rather than spend money on petrol driving to find this DPE, then paying for him to issue a new licence, why not spend a little more and combine sorting your licence out with a long weekend in the Las Vegas sunshine :-)
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Originally Posted by cessnapete
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I have a 'based on' FAA CPL/IR. I was refused the on line 2$ renewal by FAA.
So off to USA on hols will renew during visit.
I have a 'based on' FAA CPL/IR. I was refused the on line 2$ renewal by FAA.
So off to USA on hols will renew during visit.
You may hold a JAA CPL/IR and have used that as your basis for an FAA 61.75 private certificate. I find nothing in the FARAIM that says that the FAA issue a CPL/IR based on a foreign certificate. Perhaps you can enlighten us further.
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The FAA actually WILL technically issue a foreign based Commercial Certificate, if you base your 61.75 on a foreign CPL. A friend of mine has one, HOWEVER it will show the following limitation:
"NOT VALID FOR THE CARRIAGE OF PERSONS OR PROPERTY FOR COMPENSATION OR HIRE OR FOR AGRICULTURAL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS."
Which I guess makes it pretty much useless for almost anything 'commercial' except possibly ferrying.
"NOT VALID FOR THE CARRIAGE OF PERSONS OR PROPERTY FOR COMPENSATION OR HIRE OR FOR AGRICULTURAL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS."
Which I guess makes it pretty much useless for almost anything 'commercial' except possibly ferrying.
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Bose - I, too, *used* to have an FAA CPL issued on the basis of, but as Julian said, it was stamped "Restricted" and was (effectively) only valid for private flights.
Have a real ATP now - with "English Proficient" written on it. Cost me $2. I'll put it on my tax form.
Have a real ATP now - with "English Proficient" written on it. Cost me $2. I'll put it on my tax form.
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As a slight, but topical, aside - I have a Transport Canada ATPL "issued on the basis of UK ATPL......" - which is limited to Cessna 172, DA20 and PA44 Seminole and only when training or testing students from a particular flight school.
It wasn't until my third issue (they are valid for 12 months from date of issue) that I got them to change the wording slightly in order to allow *ME* to fly the aircraft.
The way the original was written, if the student had a cardiac arrest and died at the controls, I couldn't fly the aircraft back to base.
Now that "was not much of an <atpl>". Lol.
It wasn't until my third issue (they are valid for 12 months from date of issue) that I got them to change the wording slightly in order to allow *ME* to fly the aircraft.
The way the original was written, if the student had a cardiac arrest and died at the controls, I couldn't fly the aircraft back to base.
Now that "was not much of an <atpl>". Lol.
