Branscombe Airfield - Help Needed Again
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Flyingannoyance,
It is not the noise that is killing Branscombe, it is morons like you that live in the 19th century and spend most of their waking hours seeking to put in place some more legislation - as if the UK needs more - or to get some ruling to stop others doing things they enjoy.
I bet you are a right barrel of fun. Branscombe is not a particularly nice place - it is dull, crowded and full of narrow-minded idiots like you. The little airstrip is fine, not brilliant, but fine. I enjoyed flying in once to drop parachutists but was not minded to return.
Get out, do something with your heartbeats and divert your energies another way. Others have, so why don't you?
It is not the noise that is killing Branscombe, it is morons like you that live in the 19th century and spend most of their waking hours seeking to put in place some more legislation - as if the UK needs more - or to get some ruling to stop others doing things they enjoy.
I bet you are a right barrel of fun. Branscombe is not a particularly nice place - it is dull, crowded and full of narrow-minded idiots like you. The little airstrip is fine, not brilliant, but fine. I enjoyed flying in once to drop parachutists but was not minded to return.
Get out, do something with your heartbeats and divert your energies another way. Others have, so why don't you?
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I think we'd make a better case and promote a better image for GA by challenging the arguments, rather than attacking the individual.
He is entitled to his opinion and whilst there is unlikely to be much sympathy on this forum, the comments are due a reasoned response.
He is entitled to his opinion and whilst there is unlikely to be much sympathy on this forum, the comments are due a reasoned response.
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If the guy can't even use a spell checker what chance has he got of being taken seriously?
Perhaps, and I really don't know one way or the other, there's some merit in his argument, but he certainly hasn't done himself any favours with that post!
Perhaps, and I really don't know one way or the other, there's some merit in his argument, but he certainly hasn't done himself any favours with that post!
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What is the agenda in this reactivated thread.
I enjoy flying into Branscombe and it is a great place to fly into. The local situation hasn't been resolved, sadly, but it is the sort of place we need to keep.
The owner is a good guy and keen to support GA so let's help him - there are few enough of them that are willing to help us.
I enjoy flying into Branscombe and it is a great place to fly into. The local situation hasn't been resolved, sadly, but it is the sort of place we need to keep.
The owner is a good guy and keen to support GA so let's help him - there are few enough of them that are willing to help us.
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I'm another 'goody goody' on this one and jollyrog is spot-on. All those personal insults and slagging off of bad spelling will surely make you feel better - and at the same time gain GA another most unneeded enemy. If that is what you want...
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Sadly people with more money than sense is killing it.
Contrary to what the media feeds you, the vast majority of pilots actually live on average saleries, and do have more sense than money.
And we don't want to be your enemy.
flyingannoyance could benefit from reading General Aviation Serves America. You are more than welcome to have a flight with me. I can show you want we do here, and how we contribute to the economy and to the wider society.
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BEWARE:
The last post from the airfield owner was before the thread got revitalised, and said:
"... rather than appeal, we will be submitting another application with the fall back position of the consent that we now have. "
Now, months later, just wehn a new appication might be getting prepared, the thread is revived with a post that purports to be from an angry neighbour.
It may well be. And he/she may well be looking for evidence from Pprune about "arrogant" pilots, who have no care for communities they frequent, being selfish only about their pleasures etc etc etc.
The last post from the airfield owner was before the thread got revitalised, and said:
"... rather than appeal, we will be submitting another application with the fall back position of the consent that we now have. "
Now, months later, just wehn a new appication might be getting prepared, the thread is revived with a post that purports to be from an angry neighbour.
It may well be. And he/she may well be looking for evidence from Pprune about "arrogant" pilots, who have no care for communities they frequent, being selfish only about their pleasures etc etc etc.
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I find it very hard to give credit to your statment that the aircraft are disturbing livestock or wildlife, I am involved with a rural airfield with the more usage than Branscombe and the divercity of wildlife that finds sanctuary on the airfield and in the hedgerows is quite astounding I have seen at least five types of birds of prey, and large dear to name just a few.
I refer you to the post above about troubles with your radio & TV.
Branscombe is an interesting place as you would think that it would be the residence for those engaged in the business of the airfield and local farms, this is not so as the cost of housing has been driven up by those from the citys who use the place as a hoiday home or retirement. The local working people cant afford to live in Branscoumbe having been driven out by those who have a lot more money and want to live in a rural theam park, as a farmer I would be very carefull about backing these anti airfield people because once they get the airfield closed they will turn on the "nusance" that results from muck spreading, tractors, farm yard noise Etc.
The local authority is interesting in the fact that they have a semingly small planning department for quite a large area and yet they have a disproportionate amount of time to give to enforcment action on the airfield with very regular visits. This begs a few questions, Is there so little other planning work that they have nothing else to do? Are they giving in to exccesive pressure from a small minority of people and so failing to properly supervise other planning applications in the area? Are the planners short of work and using the airfield as job protection from the Govenment cuts?
These are the kindest interpritations that I can put on the actions of the planning authoritys, if I was subject to this sort of scrutiny from the planning authority I would be looking at a victimisation action.
As far as I can see most of the problems at Branscombe are the result of a few pepole who have a lot of money and a lot of time with nothing better to do, If they get the airfield shut they will put an aircraft restoration company out of business and people out of work for no other reason than their own selfishness and the aim of even higher house prices.
I refer you to the post above about troubles with your radio & TV.
Branscombe is an interesting place as you would think that it would be the residence for those engaged in the business of the airfield and local farms, this is not so as the cost of housing has been driven up by those from the citys who use the place as a hoiday home or retirement. The local working people cant afford to live in Branscoumbe having been driven out by those who have a lot more money and want to live in a rural theam park, as a farmer I would be very carefull about backing these anti airfield people because once they get the airfield closed they will turn on the "nusance" that results from muck spreading, tractors, farm yard noise Etc.
The local authority is interesting in the fact that they have a semingly small planning department for quite a large area and yet they have a disproportionate amount of time to give to enforcment action on the airfield with very regular visits. This begs a few questions, Is there so little other planning work that they have nothing else to do? Are they giving in to exccesive pressure from a small minority of people and so failing to properly supervise other planning applications in the area? Are the planners short of work and using the airfield as job protection from the Govenment cuts?
These are the kindest interpritations that I can put on the actions of the planning authoritys, if I was subject to this sort of scrutiny from the planning authority I would be looking at a victimisation action.
As far as I can see most of the problems at Branscombe are the result of a few pepole who have a lot of money and a lot of time with nothing better to do, If they get the airfield shut they will put an aircraft restoration company out of business and people out of work for no other reason than their own selfishness and the aim of even higher house prices.
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We had about 200 hundred sheep in the field next to our runway in January and they weren't in the least bit interested in the aircraft.
Hot air balloons for some reason seem to scare the cr*p out of most animals and they don't really make any noise - apart from the burner.
With most airfield compaints there is more to it than a bit of noise - there is usually an agenda - our biggest noise complainer, who chose to buy a house on the approach to a busy airfield, breeds dogs and generates far more noise complaints from his neighbours over the barking than an airfield ever could.
Let's face it there is noise everywhere in the country - if you want peace and quiet stay in the city and go to the park!
Hot air balloons for some reason seem to scare the cr*p out of most animals and they don't really make any noise - apart from the burner.
With most airfield compaints there is more to it than a bit of noise - there is usually an agenda - our biggest noise complainer, who chose to buy a house on the approach to a busy airfield, breeds dogs and generates far more noise complaints from his neighbours over the barking than an airfield ever could.
Let's face it there is noise everywhere in the country - if you want peace and quiet stay in the city and go to the park!
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When I bought my house in South London, London City Airport wasn't there. I'm well South of the final approach tracks for Heathrow. The only jet traffic I had to suffer noise from was Heathrow traffic leaving the Biggin stack and joining the FAT. Quite high and not too intrusive.
Now, I get London City downwind traffic at 2000ft every couple of minutes, right over the house, all day, every day. I don't like the noise very much, but I doubt that they'll change the approach path or cease operations as a result of me complaining.
In comparison, a few SEP movements each day would be bliss. Noise complainants in the countryside have a different and (I think) unreasonable definition of what consitutes noise.
Now, I get London City downwind traffic at 2000ft every couple of minutes, right over the house, all day, every day. I don't like the noise very much, but I doubt that they'll change the approach path or cease operations as a result of me complaining.
In comparison, a few SEP movements each day would be bliss. Noise complainants in the countryside have a different and (I think) unreasonable definition of what consitutes noise.
