Oban/Glenforsa News
Flew to Oban today. Very welcoming as usual. Clean warm lounge and toilets. Quick fuel and an offer of a complementary coffee. I noticed A&B have 4 mountain bikes for free use by pilots/passengers of aircraft landing there. I don't remember seeing that mentioned before on this thread.
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Well I suspect thats them gone then.
Because push bikes require a safety course before use and also a safety sign off as per all council gyms by a jockstrap thick prat.
If they are given at council property they have to have all the paper work and insurance for them to be used.
Which is maybe why everyone is not mentioning it.
The complimentary Coffee is also not allowed under council remit I am afraid it will have had to have been fiddled through the books unless they have included it as part of the landing fee. If they haven't as part of there service for the fee they are in breach of auditing rules.
So all in all a cracking post Maoraigh.
If it was run by a none council operator there wouldn't be a problem.
Because push bikes require a safety course before use and also a safety sign off as per all council gyms by a jockstrap thick prat.
If they are given at council property they have to have all the paper work and insurance for them to be used.
Which is maybe why everyone is not mentioning it.
The complimentary Coffee is also not allowed under council remit I am afraid it will have had to have been fiddled through the books unless they have included it as part of the landing fee. If they haven't as part of there service for the fee they are in breach of auditing rules.
So all in all a cracking post Maoraigh.
If it was run by a none council operator there wouldn't be a problem.
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That's new. Bikes were not there recently. Excellent news because the bus is a bit sporadic, and unless PK gives you a car, a bit limited if you don't like walking.
Great news, will take my hi viz, hard hat, and bicycle clips on my next trip.
Seriously though, that is good, and shows someone, somewhere, is thinking about customers
Great news, will take my hi viz, hard hat, and bicycle clips on my next trip.
Seriously though, that is good, and shows someone, somewhere, is thinking about customers
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Its cracking news maxred but I suspect completely against council policy and also red tape.
Because remember councils don;t have customers just people who use the services that should be
ing grateful for what they get.
Because remember councils don;t have customers just people who use the services that should be
ing grateful for what they get.
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Heading up that way in May to the Glenforsa fly in. I understand that the nearest fuel stop is Oban, is this correct? Can you just land there and fill up or do they need notice?
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Yes, Oban is your fuel stop.
PPR has been requested in the past, although not mandatory, but if working Scottish they will inform Oban of your plan.
Coming up from the South, a call for local weather check would be positive, and this can act as PPR, and let them know you wish fuel.
The Glenforsa fly in is a great event. Probably there myself, weather permitting.
PPR has been requested in the past, although not mandatory, but if working Scottish they will inform Oban of your plan.
Coming up from the South, a call for local weather check would be positive, and this can act as PPR, and let them know you wish fuel.
The Glenforsa fly in is a great event. Probably there myself, weather permitting.
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Well I have never done it. I just pitch up, transfer from Scottish, and nobody has ever said a word.
That is why I stated to Thing that it has been requested in the past, and I was aware it was in the AIP, but, hey ho.
Whilst they know me, I doubt they would let me away with not PPR if it was truly mandatory........
This of course, is in part, what these 68 pages have been all about......
That is why I stated to Thing that it has been requested in the past, and I was aware it was in the AIP, but, hey ho.
Whilst they know me, I doubt they would let me away with not PPR if it was truly mandatory........
This of course, is in part, what these 68 pages have been all about......
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This is the problem with "council" policy.
Eventually the workers on the ground have learned that unless they play ball they will be out on their arse looking for another job unless things arn't not run by the book.
Because really pilots won't put up with the rules at a council run airport.
We have bikes given out now from council run property with out I presume liabilty disclaimers and/or sign off by low IQ jockstraps.
We have free coffee given.
No PPR which is required for council insurance so they claim.
So the interpretation is now developing due to the locals realising that the airport is completely stuffed unless things are sorted.
I presume that F/S arn't slagging all the pilots off and boasting about giving them a good talking to in the pub anymore.
I also presume A/G isn't filing pointless MOR's which absouletly nothing would be done about.
I also presume A/G isn't a stroppy git any more.
Bit late as far as I can see the damage is already done.
Eventually the workers on the ground have learned that unless they play ball they will be out on their arse looking for another job unless things arn't not run by the book.
Because really pilots won't put up with the rules at a council run airport.
We have bikes given out now from council run property with out I presume liabilty disclaimers and/or sign off by low IQ jockstraps.
We have free coffee given.
No PPR which is required for council insurance so they claim.
So the interpretation is now developing due to the locals realising that the airport is completely stuffed unless things are sorted.
I presume that F/S arn't slagging all the pilots off and boasting about giving them a good talking to in the pub anymore.
I also presume A/G isn't filing pointless MOR's which absouletly nothing would be done about.
I also presume A/G isn't a stroppy git any more.
Bit late as far as I can see the damage is already done.
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The last time I went into Oban I had three goes at landing before I finally twigged I needed to be at a level that would normally run the wheels across caravan roofs so as to deal with updraft from the stonking the cross wind and the hill that was blowing me back up into the sky.
I got nothing but help and sympathy! The staff in the tower (even after the third go-around) and the reception were friendly and courteous and PK was his usual dry self while filling up my aeroplane. The management seemed not to be officious either.
I shall be back later in the year all going well and may get to stay with Brendan and Allison again.
I got nothing but help and sympathy! The staff in the tower (even after the third go-around) and the reception were friendly and courteous and PK was his usual dry self while filling up my aeroplane. The management seemed not to be officious either.
I shall be back later in the year all going well and may get to stay with Brendan and Allison again.
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Free bikes and coffee ??? Hold back a little longer folks and they'll pay you to come !! Just to help inflate the numbers you understand. They don't actually like you coming !
The poor taxpayers of A&B stuffed again not to mention anyone in business renting bikes as their business !
The poor taxpayers of A&B stuffed again not to mention anyone in business renting bikes as their business !
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Madjock,
You sum it up perfectly. That **** of a FISO is still there. Nothing will change at Oban as long as you have donkeys running the place.
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You sum it up perfectly. That **** of a FISO is still there. Nothing will change at Oban as long as you have donkeys running the place.
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MF26
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The bikes have been there since June last year. I posted this about then;
I'm a little loath to post anything about Oban but...
Latest development is handy for fly in visitors - they have 4 bicycles available for loan on a 'first come, first served' basis can be arranged at the same time as PPR I believe.
So something positive in amongst all the usual in-fighting and council business. ]
Latest development is handy for fly in visitors - they have 4 bicycles available for loan on a 'first come, first served' basis can be arranged at the same time as PPR I believe.
So something positive in amongst all the usual in-fighting and council business. ]
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Can I make it clear the coffee offer was from PK at TLC.
I have never had any complaints about the radio at Oban.
PS The voice on Thursday sounded young female.
I have never had any complaints about the radio at Oban.
PS The voice on Thursday sounded young female.
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Well really glad we are back on track.
MJ was about to have a seizure on the thoughts that ABC might be giving out free coffee.
PK has always been very generous, as long as you buy fuel
The welcome is warm, and generous. (PK). And I also have not had too many issues on the radio. In fairness, despite the 'authority', the guys on the ground, generally go out of their way to be helpful
Not going back though, due to no free coffee from ABC
MJ was about to have a seizure on the thoughts that ABC might be giving out free coffee.
PK has always been very generous, as long as you buy fuel
The welcome is warm, and generous. (PK). And I also have not had too many issues on the radio. In fairness, despite the 'authority', the guys on the ground, generally go out of their way to be helpful
Not going back though, due to no free coffee from ABC
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I don't particularly care about free coffee don't drink it myself. A cold water tap without being charge for a bottle of branded tap water is all I usually want. And PK will give you that as well as a tea stained mug.
Might be worth a visit if one of trumpton has had a sex change though.
Might be worth a visit if one of trumpton has had a sex change though.
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M1,
If you have been to Oban frequently you would have encounterd the high and mighty chap on the radio. Apparently after many complaints against him he has been reduced to polishing the fire trucks on a daily basis thus allowing the more friendly folks to do the job. At a struggling airport the last thing the clients/pilots want is a half mad FISO roaring over the radio with unreasonable untimely commands. The lunatics are running the aysylum at Oban and very little will change. A step in the right direction was removing the said FISO from the tower.
Regards
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If you have been to Oban frequently you would have encounterd the high and mighty chap on the radio. Apparently after many complaints against him he has been reduced to polishing the fire trucks on a daily basis thus allowing the more friendly folks to do the job. At a struggling airport the last thing the clients/pilots want is a half mad FISO roaring over the radio with unreasonable untimely commands. The lunatics are running the aysylum at Oban and very little will change. A step in the right direction was removing the said FISO from the tower.
Regards
MF26