Night Qualification currency

[S-Works]

I give up, this is just getting ludicrous.

And we wonder why GA is in decline?

[DFC]

Bose-X,

The CAA has not backed up the view you expressed here and to say that is mischevious.

The CAA should not be used to back your argument unless you can provide a named contact and the words they used. To untruthfully use the CAA to strengthen your argument could lead those less knowledgable to believe something that is untrue or worse, do things they should not do.

Regards,

DFC

[PompeyPaul]

Hmmm

Bose-X wrote:

Jesus you arguing semantics now.

Wasn't it his birthday the other day ?

DFC Wrote:

The CAA has not backed up the view you expressed here and to say that is mischevious.

If it aint taking money of people, it doesn't seem to be something the CAA would back

[S-Works]

The CAA answered my question on this matter quite some time ago along with a number of other questions. There view is that training with an Instructor over rides the requirements for self certification. The requirements to carry passengers are self certification i.e they do not require an Instructors sign off. If you have not met the requirements you can either seek training with an Instructor to regain the currency or you can go off and fly the three circuits on your own.

Seems simple enough to me, so I fail to understand why this is being turned into a willy waving contest by you DFC.

It also answered my questions on where an IMCR could be taught from. Care to take a stab at answering that one as well?

[dublinpilot]

Bose,

Is it your position that training with an instructor overrides the need for 3 circuits, so....the training could potentially consist of only two circuits and some general handling?

Or is it your position that one circuit of training with an instructor counts as being the equivalent of one circuit as sole manipulator of the controls, even thought the pilot was not the sole manipulator of the controls? ie. they would need to do at least three circuits with the instructor?

dp

[S-Works]

I would consider a pilot out of currency enough to require training with an Instructor is not going to do a single circuit are they? If they were current enough to complete in a single circuit then they would just go off and self certify?

[dublinpilot]

What if they are only 1 circuit short of meeting the 90 days rule?

I'm simply trying to clarify what you're saying the law is, rather than asking what's practical.

You're posts so far could be read either way.

dp

[mad_jock]

To be fair to bose-x its not the first time I have heard this theory that a session with an instructor covers the pilot for pax carrying whatever you have done.

First heard from one of the northern scary examiners and then from other such god like beings down south.

It is a wee bit in the blacker part of grey.

Your between the devil (Some high up CAA examinors) and the deep blue sea (the ANO).

Personally if I was up with a student outside 90 days they were always going to do a pfl to t&G from the overhead followed by Flapless t&g to fanstop, and then what ever they liked landing.

So it would never be an issue to be honest.

[S-Works]

Same here MJ. I guess you and I are looking on the practicality of it rather than trying to score points.

[mad_jock]

And to answer the orginal question yes your circuits at night will count towards your 3 in 90 days. :-)

Have fun.