G registered a/c by FAA licence

[Sam Rutherford]

I know this must have been covered a million times, but PPRUNE won't let me search with any word less than 4 letters (er FAA, JAA etc.). This makes my search a little difficult, so...

Looking for confirmation of the 2 out of 3 rule, ie the following are all okay:

CAA licence, in UK, N registered a/c
CAA licence, in US, N registered a/c
FAA licence, in UK, G registered a/c

Is it this simple? Sam.

[Contacttower]

CAA licence, in US, N registered a/c

You have to have your JAA PPL validated by the FAA, but once that's done you're OK to fly N reg in the US.

FAA licence, in UK, G registered a/c

I actually asked the CAA about this and they said OK, but it would be VFR only.

[On the Spot]

FAA licence, in UK, G registered a/c

is OK abroad too. AT least in JAA Land if not ICAO countries.

[IO540]

There is no "2 out of 3 rule" - it's a myth of airport bars.

CAA licence, in UK, N registered a/c
OK - reference: FAR 61.3

CAA licence, in US, N registered a/c
Not OK - ref as above, an N-reg must be flown under a license issued by the country of the airspace, or by the FAA

FAA licence, in UK, G registered a/c
OK - reference UK ANO article 26 - a G-reg can be flown worldwide, OCAS, on any ICAO PPL.

[hmd]

just found this thread...I understood that if your license doe not match the reg of the A/C (ie FAA & N reg OR G Reg & CAA) you would have to get consent from countries you visit. So FAA in G reg needs consent to fly in France?
hmd

[IO540]

if your license doe not match the reg of the A/C (ie FAA & N reg OR G Reg & CAA) you would have to get consent from countries you visit

No. The airspace is not a lot to do with it.

The authority that determines what privileges (if any) a given license gives you on an aircraft is the "CAA" for the country of the aircraft registry.

So, on a G-reg, it is up to the CAA. The current ANO automatically validates all ICAO PPLs for a G-reg and this is good worldwide.

I don't think any other European country does this automatic validation for their own aircraft, and for such aircraft you have to get the non-matching license validated, e.g. by the French DGAC if flying an F-reg.

[hmd]

So an FAA licensed pilot in a G reg can fly worldwide because his license is issued by an ICAO state. BUT he can't excersie the privelidges of his IR in controlled airspace in the UK......what about IFR in other countries.

[Fuji Abound]

I wonder how this will change with EASA and a single state?

[BillieBob]

Under EASA it will not be legal to fly any aircraft registered in an EU member state without holding the appropriate licence issued in accordance with EASA Part FCL. That is written into the covering Regulation to the Implementing Rules on Pilot Licensing.

[Whopity]

So an FAA licensed pilot in a G reg can fly worldwide because his license is issued by an ICAO state. BUT he can't excersie the privelidges of his IR in controlled airspace in the UK......what about IFR in other countries.

The Rule that allows you to do it, and places the limitations on its use (Art 26) relate to the operation of the aircraft and not where its flying, so you can't fly in controlled airspace in IFR anywhere if exercising the privileges of an ICAO licence.