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I am hoping that someone can give me a ballpark figure for the market value of a RALLYE MS-880B out of CofA but in fair nick (apparently!)
Continental 0-200 engine hours about 1800 - what is engine life on one of these? And inspection intervals?
Finally anyone have knowledge of friendly farmer with barnspace for above together with strip near Teignmouth Devon?
Thanks in (hopeful) anticipation!
Continental 0-200 engine hours about 1800 - what is engine life on one of these? And inspection intervals?
Finally anyone have knowledge of friendly farmer with barnspace for above together with strip near Teignmouth Devon?
Thanks in (hopeful) anticipation!
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Like all light aircraft, boats, sports cars, houses, caravans, antiques, etc...
It's worth very precisely what someone is willing to pay for it.
I've often made offers substantially below 'asking price' or 'market value' and been pleasantly surprised with my new acquisition!
It's worth very precisely what someone is willing to pay for it.
I've often made offers substantially below 'asking price' or 'market value' and been pleasantly surprised with my new acquisition!
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Try www.planecheck.com for prices - typically 20,000 to 25,000 Euros for an airworthy one by the looks of things.
I believe the engine TBO is 1,800hrs or 12 years, whichever is the sooner, although you could run it 'on condition' with a Private CofA as I understand it.
Make sure all mods have been done and that there aren't any expensive 'lifed' components coming up for renewal.
So . . .engine needs money, airframe needs money. I'd get a good aircraft engineer (not associated with the A/C) to go over it for realistic costings.
Good luck - I'm sure there are other more knowledgeable folk on here who can give you more info.
I believe the engine TBO is 1,800hrs or 12 years, whichever is the sooner, although you could run it 'on condition' with a Private CofA as I understand it.
Make sure all mods have been done and that there aren't any expensive 'lifed' components coming up for renewal.
So . . .engine needs money, airframe needs money. I'd get a good aircraft engineer (not associated with the A/C) to go over it for realistic costings.
Good luck - I'm sure there are other more knowledgeable folk on here who can give you more info.
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Get an engineer to look at it and give a survey. Will prob cost in the region of £300 to £400 but could be worth its weight in gold if there are problems with the aircraft.
I have seen a Ralleye that looked in fair nick from the outside that needed a top overhaul and had extensive corrosion problems internally, which left the owner with two big bills in the space of a year, which going back 10 years ago cost him in the region of £5000 (plus annual check costs!). He hadn't had it surveyed. TBO as set by Continental is 1800hr or 12 years.
I have seen a Ralleye that looked in fair nick from the outside that needed a top overhaul and had extensive corrosion problems internally, which left the owner with two big bills in the space of a year, which going back 10 years ago cost him in the region of £5000 (plus annual check costs!). He hadn't had it surveyed. TBO as set by Continental is 1800hr or 12 years.
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Corrosion can be a problem so get that checked but most with those problems will already have disappeared of the register.
You are not asking for a lot in your initial post! Do we need to fly it for you too?
Out of CofA = Big risk.
Why is it out of CofA; what sort of maintenance has it had over the last (few) year(s); how much has it flown over that period; etc etc etc
Proceed with caution.
You are not asking for a lot in your initial post! Do we need to fly it for you too?
Out of CofA = Big risk.
Why is it out of CofA; what sort of maintenance has it had over the last (few) year(s); how much has it flown over that period; etc etc etc
Proceed with caution.
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I agree wholeheartedly with Flyin'Dutch'.
Main question to ask - Why was the C of A not renewed?
There may be a number of reasons, from the obvious run out of money, love, interest (delete as applicable), but it is also highly possible that the engineer who was previously looking after it was willing to let some defect remain until the expiry of the C of A, whereupon they would need fixing before the C of A was renewed. Another strong possiblity is that he was not happy for the engine to go onto extension and run on condition for some reason (Compressions/ Oil consumption?).
Supplementary questions -
How long since the C of A ran out?
How old is the engine in calendar years?
If it has stood for a while, what corrosion prevention measures have been taken?
If you proceed with this, I suggest that you speak to the previous engineer and try and find answers to the above questions. If you are satisfied by those answers then I would get it surveyed by an independant engineer - No point spending money on a survey unnecessarily!
In terms of value, there are a couple of flying 880b's floating around for sale at the moment at around the £10/12k mark.
Until proven otherwise I would value this one at it's scrap value - possibly £2/3k - you could easily spend £10k+ to get it flying again if it needed an engine!
The Rallye is a fantasic and very under-rated aircraft - I own two Rallye 180's (893's), but thats another story................
Main question to ask - Why was the C of A not renewed?
There may be a number of reasons, from the obvious run out of money, love, interest (delete as applicable), but it is also highly possible that the engineer who was previously looking after it was willing to let some defect remain until the expiry of the C of A, whereupon they would need fixing before the C of A was renewed. Another strong possiblity is that he was not happy for the engine to go onto extension and run on condition for some reason (Compressions/ Oil consumption?).
Supplementary questions -
How long since the C of A ran out?
How old is the engine in calendar years?
If it has stood for a while, what corrosion prevention measures have been taken?
If you proceed with this, I suggest that you speak to the previous engineer and try and find answers to the above questions. If you are satisfied by those answers then I would get it surveyed by an independant engineer - No point spending money on a survey unnecessarily!
In terms of value, there are a couple of flying 880b's floating around for sale at the moment at around the £10/12k mark.
Until proven otherwise I would value this one at it's scrap value - possibly £2/3k - you could easily spend £10k+ to get it flying again if it needed an engine!
The Rallye is a fantasic and very under-rated aircraft - I own two Rallye 180's (893's), but thats another story................
