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Every time anyone posts this question, then just as we are all getting to some sort of concensus on the subject of "average " hours, along comes Bose x with his zillion hours a year and cocks up the whole research project...
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More seriously, I do wish somebody did a decent statistical study of UK and European GA and what sort of things people get up to.
I am sure it would make fascinating reading.
I've seen a few studies but they are always fatally flawed by an obviously stupid choice of sampling categories. For example that Ontrack report on CAS busts, which I am sure used up thousands of man-hours of well meaning individuals, had categories like "get-home-itis" and "over reliance on GPS" which are prejudiced but more importantly are poorly chosen because they are largely meaningless.
It would be interesting to see a decent study of pilots, their flying patterns, what determines how much they fly, business/pleasure mix, aircraft and license type and how this limits what they do, etc. Do this for other places e.g. France and Germany and the results would provide a fascinating insight into this activity.
Whether such a study would do GA much good in the eyes of the regulators is another matter.
I am sure it would make fascinating reading.
I've seen a few studies but they are always fatally flawed by an obviously stupid choice of sampling categories. For example that Ontrack report on CAS busts, which I am sure used up thousands of man-hours of well meaning individuals, had categories like "get-home-itis" and "over reliance on GPS" which are prejudiced but more importantly are poorly chosen because they are largely meaningless.
It would be interesting to see a decent study of pilots, their flying patterns, what determines how much they fly, business/pleasure mix, aircraft and license type and how this limits what they do, etc. Do this for other places e.g. France and Germany and the results would provide a fascinating insight into this activity.
Whether such a study would do GA much good in the eyes of the regulators is another matter.
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Approx totals for last 12 months
50 rotary
30 fixed wing
10 microlight
Average flight time for all 0.5 hours. Having a choice of aircraft to fly and no time to do it spreads it rather thin.
50 rotary
30 fixed wing
10 microlight
Average flight time for all 0.5 hours. Having a choice of aircraft to fly and no time to do it spreads it rather thin.
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About 70hrs (about 9000 nm in 50 legs) this year so far (not as much as I would have liked ) - but I dont bimble.
muffin your post intrigues me since you and a number of others seem to have average short flight times (i am not having a go - each to their own - as long as we ALL enjoy flying).
So it would be interesting to have a view of the distance from base people typically fly (and exceptionally), since obviously 0.5 at 90kts is not far compared to 0.5 at 185kts and several legs to southern Spain is very different from several short bimbles with no land aways.
I suppose this would also affect the cost of flying since I assume most homebases dont charge more per takeoff/landing. Fuel drawback etc.etc.
muffin your post intrigues me since you and a number of others seem to have average short flight times (i am not having a go - each to their own - as long as we ALL enjoy flying).
So it would be interesting to have a view of the distance from base people typically fly (and exceptionally), since obviously 0.5 at 90kts is not far compared to 0.5 at 185kts and several legs to southern Spain is very different from several short bimbles with no land aways.
I suppose this would also affect the cost of flying since I assume most homebases dont charge more per takeoff/landing. Fuel drawback etc.etc.
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So it would be interesting to have a view of the distance from base people typically fly (and exceptionally), since obviously 0.5 at 90kts is not far compared to 0.5 at 185kts and several legs to southern Spain is very different from several short bimbles with no land aways.
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My short flight times are mainly because during the Summer most of my f/w flying is a quick half hour or so on the way home from work in the evening. I pass the airfield on the way home and turn in the gate for a flight if the sun is shining. The microlight is a friend's Skyranger that lives in the same hangar which I use occasionally if I fancy a different sort of flight.
Also I use my helicopter as a local runabout. We go to the pub or one of a few local nice places for lunch at the weekend, and if the weather is OK and the days are long I commute to work in it during the week. It is an R22, so a journey time of up to an hour or maybe two is OK. However a long flight is like driving an old Mini from Lands End to John O Groats whilst at the same time balancing on a pogo stick - OK maybe in my younger days but I am too used to comfort now.
The only times I ever get a long flight is if I have aviation minded friends staying and we go on a day trip somewhere. When I first started flying 28 years ago the limiting factor was definitely cash. Now I am old and grey I can afford it but am so busy that I never have the time. hence the half hour average trips.
Also I use my helicopter as a local runabout. We go to the pub or one of a few local nice places for lunch at the weekend, and if the weather is OK and the days are long I commute to work in it during the week. It is an R22, so a journey time of up to an hour or maybe two is OK. However a long flight is like driving an old Mini from Lands End to John O Groats whilst at the same time balancing on a pogo stick - OK maybe in my younger days but I am too used to comfort now.
The only times I ever get a long flight is if I have aviation minded friends staying and we go on a day trip somewhere. When I first started flying 28 years ago the limiting factor was definitely cash. Now I am old and grey I can afford it but am so busy that I never have the time. hence the half hour average trips.
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I try to use my aircraft for all of my business and personal travel. My car has done 6,000 miles from new in 10 months I have flown the equivalent of nearly twice around the world this year.......
In the last 7 days:
Spanhoe-Leics-Haverfordwest-Spanhoe - Meeting
Spanhoe - Le Touquet - Lunch
Spanhoe-Leics-Spanhoe - Night flying for curry!
Spanhoe-Sandown-Spanhoe - Flyer forums fly-in
Spanhoe-Cranfield-Popham-Spanhoe - Avionics work and Popham meeting
Spanhoe-Leics-Wickenby-Spanhoe - Dropping my children back with mother
Leics is generally a fuel stop.
Rest of the this week I have a meeting in Cornwall, meeting in Le Touquet, collect my son from Wickenby tomorrow and DA42 delivery on saturday plus 2 license renewals to do for people.
Whenever possible I try to collect and deliver my children by air and I always arrange my meetings at airfields when I can, preferably those with IAP so I have a 98% success rate.
I have an unusual lifestyle so it was actually quite easy to adjust it to make flying work as transport. Obviously have an IR helps with the bad weather!
In the last 7 days:
Spanhoe-Leics-Haverfordwest-Spanhoe - Meeting
Spanhoe - Le Touquet - Lunch
Spanhoe-Leics-Spanhoe - Night flying for curry!
Spanhoe-Sandown-Spanhoe - Flyer forums fly-in
Spanhoe-Cranfield-Popham-Spanhoe - Avionics work and Popham meeting
Spanhoe-Leics-Wickenby-Spanhoe - Dropping my children back with mother
Leics is generally a fuel stop.
Rest of the this week I have a meeting in Cornwall, meeting in Le Touquet, collect my son from Wickenby tomorrow and DA42 delivery on saturday plus 2 license renewals to do for people.
Whenever possible I try to collect and deliver my children by air and I always arrange my meetings at airfields when I can, preferably those with IAP so I have a 98% success rate.
I have an unusual lifestyle so it was actually quite easy to adjust it to make flying work as transport. Obviously have an IR helps with the bad weather!
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