The Phone ATIS
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Cheers paddyboy
Thanks paddyboy. Maybe they are available on that AIS web site but I sure haven't been able to find these particular ones. Maybe these Airports don't use the system...or maybe its a secret!
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try this . Put in the ICAO and below the taf is the phone number for most airports.
http://www.activitae.com/pda
http://www.activitae.com/pda
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From: UK
FA,
Try www.avbrief.com
HTH
Edited to add: The WAP address is specifically: http://www.avbrief.com/wap.wml?_redir=1#lookup
Or, at least it is in my WAP bookmarks!
Try www.avbrief.com
HTH
Edited to add: The WAP address is specifically: http://www.avbrief.com/wap.wml?_redir=1#lookup
Or, at least it is in my WAP bookmarks!
Last edited by Bravo73; 20th September 2007 at 13:16.
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From: SE UK
YAWS - Yet Another Weather Service
Fuji Abound wrote:
"... does anyone know of a wap mobile site that provides TAFs BUT in particular the 18 hour TAFS."
I run YAWS at activitae.com and despite actively looking for 18 hour TAFS from free sources, they seem not to be available. Remember Avbrief's rudimentary mobile service is complimentary to those that subscribe. (Although I acknowledge that since the url is well known, free-loaders use it too.)
However, it always intrigues me when this question about 18 hour TAFs arises as to what exactly the pilot wants to do. This topic is in a GA forum and the range for most GA aircraft is under 5 hours. This means the pilot will have to land to refuel most likely well within the validity period of the 9 hour TAF. And once landed the pilot can look up fresh data.
So, Fuji Abound, what exactly do you do to actively need 18 hour TAFs, especially given that the Met Office long range F214s are available on YAWS? YAWS is not a product intended for commercial use and there are notices on activitae.com that say 'YAWS is free only for non-commercial pilots'.
Finally, everyone, an easier to remember URL for YAWS these days is the shorter http://yaws.mobi
Happy flying!
Angela
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"... does anyone know of a wap mobile site that provides TAFs BUT in particular the 18 hour TAFS."
I run YAWS at activitae.com and despite actively looking for 18 hour TAFS from free sources, they seem not to be available. Remember Avbrief's rudimentary mobile service is complimentary to those that subscribe. (Although I acknowledge that since the url is well known, free-loaders use it too.)
However, it always intrigues me when this question about 18 hour TAFs arises as to what exactly the pilot wants to do. This topic is in a GA forum and the range for most GA aircraft is under 5 hours. This means the pilot will have to land to refuel most likely well within the validity period of the 9 hour TAF. And once landed the pilot can look up fresh data.
So, Fuji Abound, what exactly do you do to actively need 18 hour TAFs, especially given that the Met Office long range F214s are available on YAWS? YAWS is not a product intended for commercial use and there are notices on activitae.com that say 'YAWS is free only for non-commercial pilots'.
Finally, everyone, an easier to remember URL for YAWS these days is the shorter http://yaws.mobi
Happy flying!
Angela
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From: Bordeaux, France
Hi Angela,
Just a guess, but I think its because most of us have a mobile (actually I dont have one, but SWMBO does) but not all of us laptops and internet connection to go with it when visiting somewhere. Personally I find that I need to plan the night before if I can fly somewhere, not just for having a plan for myself, but usually for the person the other end I will be seeing/visiting....And I fly only for fun and can be very flexible.
TV weather isnt really good enough is it?
Regards, SD.
However, it always intrigues me when this question about 18 hour TAFs arises as to what exactly the pilot wants to do. This topic is in a GA forum and the range for most GA aircraft is under 5 hours. This means the pilot will have to land to refuel most likely well within the validity period of the 9 hour TAF. And once landed the pilot can look up fresh data.
TV weather isnt really good enough is it?
Regards, SD.
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Plenty of reasons for an 18 hour TAF, for example useful for those looking to fly a return trip somewhere with some time at the destination, and wanting to check before departure that the WX will likely be suitable for the return trip.
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YAWS
Well, I take the points of all you 24 hour TAFers; I just work a bit differently, apparently.
I use my desktop the morning of my flight to check everything is ok weatherwise. I use the met office forms 214/215 for an overview. And also I do a TAF and METAR lookup for the route of the journey. Then when I need to return, only then do I use my mobile. And, for me, a short range TAF is more than adequate in that situation.
I'm not sure I would want to rely on a 24 hour forecast to the very last, without checking for updates. Just goes to show we all have different approaches.
Historically, I started YAWS for my own use when channel hopping. I could never feel happy at some French airfield that lacked a computer terminal, not knowing the TAFs at home. I still only tend to use my mobile only for the return flight. Just rarely I use it as a last-minute-before-I-fly-check on days when the weather looks a bit strange.
Since I now know at least 4 of you want 24 hour TAFs I'll look a bit harder to see if it can be added to YAWS.
And thanks, Guys, for the kind coments!
Keep spreading the URL!
Angela
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I use my desktop the morning of my flight to check everything is ok weatherwise. I use the met office forms 214/215 for an overview. And also I do a TAF and METAR lookup for the route of the journey. Then when I need to return, only then do I use my mobile. And, for me, a short range TAF is more than adequate in that situation.
I'm not sure I would want to rely on a 24 hour forecast to the very last, without checking for updates. Just goes to show we all have different approaches.
Historically, I started YAWS for my own use when channel hopping. I could never feel happy at some French airfield that lacked a computer terminal, not knowing the TAFs at home. I still only tend to use my mobile only for the return flight. Just rarely I use it as a last-minute-before-I-fly-check on days when the weather looks a bit strange.
Since I now know at least 4 of you want 24 hour TAFs I'll look a bit harder to see if it can be added to YAWS.
And thanks, Guys, for the kind coments!
Keep spreading the URL!Angela
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From: EuroGA.org
In GA terms, the usefulness of a Long TAF is that one can plan the night before whether a flight the following day is likely or not.
The ability to look a day or three ahead is a much sought after ability, since e.g. many private pilots fly only at weekends and they need to "book" the weekend in good time, both with their other half etc and with the club or hangar owner.
For example I have to give a day's notice to get mine out of the hangar, and I have no weekend hangar access.
The only officially sanctioned longer range data is the long TAFs (which are available for major airports around Europe) and the MSLP charts.
TAFs are produced hopefully by full time specialists and should be the most accurate data you are going to get. The MSLP charts run 5 days ahead but are good for showing up major features such as fronts (OK for a go / no-go decision in most cases especially for VFR) but require expert interpretation to get anything else out of them with any reliability.
Many pilots use other data for longer range forecasts, e.g. GFS.
Obviously if you are unemployed/retired, based on your own farm strip, and own your plane, and do only one-day trips, then you should never need a long TAF
The ability to look a day or three ahead is a much sought after ability, since e.g. many private pilots fly only at weekends and they need to "book" the weekend in good time, both with their other half etc and with the club or hangar owner.
For example I have to give a day's notice to get mine out of the hangar, and I have no weekend hangar access.
The only officially sanctioned longer range data is the long TAFs (which are available for major airports around Europe) and the MSLP charts.
TAFs are produced hopefully by full time specialists and should be the most accurate data you are going to get. The MSLP charts run 5 days ahead but are good for showing up major features such as fronts (OK for a go / no-go decision in most cases especially for VFR) but require expert interpretation to get anything else out of them with any reliability.
Many pilots use other data for longer range forecasts, e.g. GFS.
Obviously if you are unemployed/retired, based on your own farm strip, and own your plane, and do only one-day trips, then you should never need a long TAF
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Resurected thread department...
Long TAFs are now on YAWS for those stations that broadcast them.
http://yaws.mobi. I've also taken the opportunity to add a calculated Density Altitude value based on the latest METAR data. Feedback on the usefulness of DA would be helpful... I want to guard against YAWS becoming bloated.
Angela
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http://yaws.mobi. I've also taken the opportunity to add a calculated Density Altitude value based on the latest METAR data. Feedback on the usefulness of DA would be helpful... I want to guard against YAWS becoming bloated.
Angela
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Chevvron... ever heard of throwing your money away?
Dialmet is charged at 49p per minute (34p per minute off peak) including VAT... more from abroad... for single station access.
Internet access to a weather site, via a desktop PC or mobile device using WiFi, can cost you nothing, or you can pay for normal internet access via a mobile device from around 3p.
Angela
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YAWS gives you more...
Dialmet is charged at 49p per minute (34p per minute off peak) including VAT... more from abroad... for single station access.
Internet access to a weather site, via a desktop PC or mobile device using WiFi, can cost you nothing, or you can pay for normal internet access via a mobile device from around 3p.
Angela
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YAWS gives you more...