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What speed will a twin-com make if you push it hard (say at 10,000'), and what would the fuel burn be ? Feel free to define "hard" in whatever way is applicable to the aeroplane !
FF
What speed will a twin-com make if you push it hard (say at 10,000'), and what would the fuel burn be ? Feel free to define "hard" in whatever way is applicable to the aeroplane !
FF
How about a Yak18T cruises at 125knt, 4 hours+ with the optional long range tanks @ 20 gal/hour ish. Payload is 1,100 lb It's also aerobatic when 2 up!!
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Twin Comanche
Fully flapped
See the attached articles:
http://www.fergworld.com/articles/ar...n_comanche.php
http://www.planecheck.com/twincom.htm
email me with your phone number and I will call you with more info if you wish.
See the attached articles:
http://www.fergworld.com/articles/ar...n_comanche.php
http://www.planecheck.com/twincom.htm
email me with your phone number and I will call you with more info if you wish.
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So what you really need is a Cessna 172 Hawk XP. Real 4 seat aicraft, 5hrs range at 128kts. I fly mine all over Europe in the Airways between Fl100 and FL170 at 32lph.
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My mate has a Cherokee 235 that he is keen to sell. Its in very nice condition.
www.lincolnaeroclub.co.uk/sales.html
Also advertised on Plancheck, AFORS and UKGA
PM if you need high res photos.
www.lincolnaeroclub.co.uk/sales.html
Also advertised on Plancheck, AFORS and UKGA
PM if you need high res photos.
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Prices of 4 seat IFR tourers have fallen to silly levels recently. I have just seen a couple of TB20s advertised in GA Europe for about £40k. OK, these are going to be real dogs with decrepit avionics but at this price you can strip it down to bare metal and do it up as you want it, and within a 100k budget would get a very nice machine, good for FL200, 1000+nm zero-fuel range, etc.
These are late 1970s designs which is about 30 years more modern than anything else going.
The DA50 will be very good - a big plane designed to carry four fat Americans, or four fat Brits for that matter - but it won't be much below £300k, I reckon. A new TB20 was £240k+VAT (with various desirable options such as WX500, EDM700, TKS prop) when they last made them in 2003.
Cirrus have since bombed the used plane prices everywhere, which is good news for anybody entering the IFR tourer scene, and awfully bad news for anybody already in there but wishing to exit aviation altogether.
The TB user group is here. Nowadays the postings there are largely made up of a small number of mostly American owners but it is a huge resource for anybody looking at TBs.
These are late 1970s designs which is about 30 years more modern than anything else going.
The DA50 will be very good - a big plane designed to carry four fat Americans, or four fat Brits for that matter - but it won't be much below £300k, I reckon. A new TB20 was £240k+VAT (with various desirable options such as WX500, EDM700, TKS prop) when they last made them in 2003.
Cirrus have since bombed the used plane prices everywhere, which is good news for anybody entering the IFR tourer scene, and awfully bad news for anybody already in there but wishing to exit aviation altogether.
The TB user group is here. Nowadays the postings there are largely made up of a small number of mostly American owners but it is a huge resource for anybody looking at TBs.
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The aircraft that will this and much more is the Comanche 250 and all 260 models. The 260C will take all of you for 5h +45min. Yes they are old but no other aircraft ever made can deliver the Comanche numbers. At 65% power you fly at 140KTIS and burn 12-13gl/h. Cannes is not a problem with this aircraft.
